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 19-ph 1-valver..knocking
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bison
Level 1 User

Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 27

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:58 am

can any help me with my prized phase 1 19 16 valve,ive owned the car three months and compared to the long list of other cars ive had i was happy,until it started getting what is in my opinion a knock on idle and during accelleration which is worse when cold,since it started ive changed the fuel filter,spark plugs,im waiting for ht leads to arrive off ebay.
i cleaned the idle speed valve and throttle body today using chris`s guide which was really helpfull by the way,but the problem is still there,the car is standard apart from exhaust air filter and low temp stat+switch.
is that buzzing from the fuel pump nomal mine sounds like a space ship the brother in laws chamade ph 2 doesnt.
Roger Red Hat
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Joined: 13 Oct 2004
Posts: 4722

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:03 am

it a constant knocking?

and yes they all buzz.

some worse then others i belive tho.
bison
Level 1 User

Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 27

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:13 am

thanks for the quick reply,its like two maybe three knocks when cold then it will be ok for 30 secs then it will do it again it, gets better as the engine gets hot,and goes down to about one knock
JB
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Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Posts: 7405

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:57 am

is it a knock like someone hitting the block with a wooden club type thing...could be your big ends (wahey) gone/goin.
touring_19_16v
Level 10 User

Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 620

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:42 pm

happened on mine mate i had my ph1 4 about 3 days and the engine sized check your oil pressure gauge wen u start the car and see where it is coz if it doesnt move above a 1/4 from the bottom your oil pump has given up and its starving of oil hence what happend to mine causing the evry internal on the bottom to dry up and eventually seize. also does the car start sriaght up after a longish run as mine didnt whilst this oil starvation was happening
bison
Level 1 User

Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 27

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:12 pm

sorted the problem,it was the ht leads,didnt think it could have been them as it gradually got better as the engine got warmer, suppose the dodgy lead must have expanded or something with the heat.
Wicked Neo
FCS Event Manager

Joined: 04 Jan 2005
Posts: 3680

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:10 am

bison wrote:
sorted the problem,it was the ht leads,didnt think it could have been them as it gradually got better as the engine got warmer, suppose the dodgy lead must have expanded or something with the heat.


wow thats a new one on me, u had a knocking noise and it was because of a dodgy HT lead ?
huwwatkins
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Joined: 10 Jun 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:48 am

Might have been a misfire?
Wicked Neo
FCS Event Manager

Joined: 04 Jan 2005
Posts: 3680

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:54 am

aye a misfire is what i would expect but thats a different sound to a knock

he prolly just did not describe the sound very well lol

i know on my black chammy, that does have the big ends knackered and boy does that knock lol, its ok at idle but take it over 3000 rpm and it has an amazingly loud knocking noise heh
Dan
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Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:13 am

lol, i had a fiesta stop by my place today, cos her oil light came on Rolling Eyes sounded like a grandfather clock knocking lol
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:16 am

fiestas are great for that.

was it the mk3?

they always do it..can tell one a mile off
touring_19_16v
Level 10 User

Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 620

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:07 pm

not only fezzs but all cvh and pte engine do tht poor workmanship is all i can say usless buggers
touring_19_16v
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Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 620

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:08 pm

not only fezzs but all cvh and pte engines do tht poor workmanship is all i can say usless buggers
Chris H
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Joined: 02 Mar 2004
Posts: 19978

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:28 am

whats a pte engine?

The HCS is far worse than the cvh for tapping.

End of the day its maintenance, when looked after they are both good engines.
touring_19_16v
Level 10 User

Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 620

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:33 am

the pte engines are the replacements for the hcs lump chris i only know this frm wrkin at ford lol
Chris H
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:39 am

the valencias used in the ka?
Dan
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Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 3547

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:31 am

yea it was a cvh, i aslo had a friend come to me yesterday saying its lost power, wont do more than 70mph, sounds like its got an induction kit when accelarating, found the problem. oil...or the lack of it shall i say Rolling Eyes he had just traveled baxck from skegness with it doing this Shocked strangly, dumped some oil in it, and its quicker than it used to be, so he did something but he managed 105 out of it, instead of its usual 95
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:44 am

the ford lumps are always liks this, abused and ran dry but they survive well for it!
bison
Level 1 User

Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 27

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:29 pm

the knock as described was the exhaust downpipe vibrating under rough idle/dodgy ht lead,its got a full stainless magnex but it looked like a blindman fitted it when up on the ramps...nice warble on it though,not too loud.
Neal
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004
Posts: 7432

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:12 pm

Yep ive got a magnex, nice subtle tone to them, not too offensive
Wicked Neo
FCS Event Manager

Joined: 04 Jan 2005
Posts: 3680

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:20 pm

I too also have a magnex from the cat back, but mine is a tad louder than it was since fitting the decat pipe
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