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 Car tax rules?
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david3533
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:59 am

I've never had a letter telling me my 5 is sorn thats in 4 years. Rolling Eyes Laughing but every year when it comes to renewal it says mine is sorn Rolling Eyes Neutral
Alex C
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Joined: 20 Jun 2004
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:19 pm

Never quite figured out why you still need 3rd party insurance even if your car is parked up on a public road and sorned.

I can't imagine ever being able to make a successful claim with an insurance company in those circumstances, as any valid claim you might have would have to be so wacky as to be unbelievable! If its sorned, then you can't actually drive it on a public road obviously, as you won't have any tax, so you would have to cause damage in some obscure manner.

I guess if your car spontaneously exploded and blew up some other cars or something then you could claim, or if you parked on a steep hill and the handbrake decided to come off like in those morethan ads Smile

Am I just missing some point or other here?

Could be an interesting topic - how you could cause injury to a third party with your car without actually driving it... Wink
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:43 am

another car colliding with it and the sorn car thus ramming into other cars.
david3533
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:24 am

sorry might be a bit dim but I thought the whole point of sorn was to keep your car off road so you don't have to pay car tax or get it re registered when you put it back on the road. ie a sorn car cannot be kept on a public road.
Alex C
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:43 pm

Ahhh never thought of that Chris - well tbh I would have thought of it, but I just assumed that if you drive into someones car, causing it to smash into another car, you would be held responsibile for all the damage that resulted from your automotive bowling exercise! Seems a bit stingy that you could cost someone their no claims by driving into their car when they weren't even in it, and making them liable for any damage that their car caused because of your impact. Actually thats kinda scary Confused
JB
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:32 pm

or if u have rusty arches and some idiot walks past and scratches themselves on it they could claim against u
gunnergibson
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Joined: 11 Feb 2005
Posts: 40

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:33 pm

Sorn 3rd party liability is there for people who dont have an off road area to store their car..

you can technically drive any journey you want with no tax or MOT...
just call and book yourself in at an MOT centre where the journey is you want to make.. and dont turn up..lol.. however i dont condone this behaiviour.
david3533
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:20 am

I thought sorn stood for Statitutary Off Road Notification therefore if you are inspected and you can be, although highly unlikely and your car is on the road you will be fined I believe min £1000.

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"sorn declartion is to confirm that the vehicle is not used or kept on the public road" un quote taken from form v11 so therefore as per my point before if you have a sorn vehicle why do you need insurance in case some body should hit it Question Question
schakal
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:39 am

Chris H wrote:
another car colliding with it and the sorn car thus ramming into other cars.


if another car collides my car in my private drive or anywhere else ,its their problem thus their insurance will have to pay out ,not mine .so it does not make sense to have 3rd party insurance for a car declared off road
schakal
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:41 am

Jonnyboy wrote:
or if u have rusty arches and some idiot walks past and scratches themselves on it they could claim against u


again if the car is on my private land ,that bastard should not be walking past any close to my rusty car ,should he ?
schakal
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:43 am

just declared my chammy off road over the phone today ,i did not know that could be done on the phone . tidy job Laughing
Chris H
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:50 am

I sent away the sorn and V5 app on friday.

Also on private land no why woudl you insure it. I was reffering to keepin g acar on eht street.

Cos all my cars are insured ain't they Rolling Eyes
JB
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:46 am

schakal wrote:
Jonnyboy wrote:
or if u have rusty arches and some idiot walks past and scratches themselves on it they could claim against u


again if the car is on my private land ,that bastard should not be walking past any close to my rusty car ,should he ?


yes but were talkin about it bein on the road!!! Wanker!
schakal
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:06 am

sorry mofos ,that made me look like a Wanker! now

bastids Twisted Evil
stan
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:13 am

david3533 wrote:
sorry might be a bit dim but I thought the whole point of sorn was to keep your car off road so you don't have to pay car tax or get it re registered when you put it back on the road. ie a sorn car cannot be kept on a public road.


yep, thats wot (I mean what really) it leads u to believe, but like i said the two officilas that clamped my car told me otherwise. as daft as i tsounds!
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:05 am

hmm, i better sorn to clio actually...seeing as tax runs out end of month as well..
JB
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:53 am

well i actually had my confirmation of sorn today...and in myletter it says it must be off the road!
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