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 Damn my renault is good in hiding things :shock:
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Xvisor
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:05 pm

I went over to a mate who works with renault on the other side of the country to get a goodworking ICV today. I got that and we put it on right away in the darn heet (38 celsius). The problem still there so while he was checking everything and i was drinking beer he said my TPS is fucked. He checked that by moving the TPS arm downward while the engine idling and nothing happened. He said it should overfuel immediatly and shut down?? This right? is my TPS fucked?? I do trust him on it. But still i would like to be on the safe side here cause those damn renault buggers want 110,- euro for it Sad Confused Shocked (it seems as i have this problem since i bought the car over a year ago (check my post on rsc) that it's fucked a long time already!)
Neal
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:07 pm

No it shouldnt overfuel and shut down, its a speed-density based system, the TPS is used for acceleration enrichment. If you think it might be buggered, get a multimeter on it.
Xvisor
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:39 pm

Over which wires should i measure?? on what setting?
Chris H
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:15 am

it will normally cut out when you push the TPS arm down. Or at least run badly and nearly cut out.

Its speed density based but primary input is from the throttle plate.
JB
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:51 am

I managed to get mine wedged at wot (I mean what really) for ages once Laughing and it ran but just pretty rough, like lumpy idle (more than normal) and would cut out very easily while driving and putting the clutch in. etc
Xvisor
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:48 pm

Nothing happens if i push down the TPS arm and nothing happens when i pull the TPS plug out. It runs just the same. :S
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:09 am

its broke,its either very knackered or the wiring is.
srr
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:18 am

TPS is throttle position sensor right?
On my opel it cut out right away and wouldnt even start when the TPS was
broken in it. To keep it running i had to start the car and keep accelerating or otherwise it would cut out again.
Managed to drive home one night like that Rolling Eyes
And the next day all i needed to do was clean the TPS sensor and TPS plate and intake pipe with carb cleaner. It ran like new after that.
The beforemath of this adventure was rough idling and powerloss when accelerating.
Why doesnt this happen in the Renault? Maybe not the same problem?
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:22 am

on opels etc there run MAF sensors, and different managment systems (typically bosch).
R1916S
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:31 pm

It’s a can of worms.

I went – new ICV no change

Second hand TPS idle good for a few days, shit starts again.

Unplugged the Lambda sensor, idle good for two days, shit starts again.

New Lambda sensor, no change.

Now mine idled OK from starting but if I revved the engine over 4500 it idled high.

On a French Clio 16V site they said this is the Speedo cable’s hall sensor, (road speed sensor), white bit on the dash end of the cable. (Thinking back, I’d changed a bulb behind the dash about the time this started).

Chris H thought it was the RSS and we went through all the ground wires, no change.

Ended up removing the cable from behind the Speedo. Carefully removing the white plastic cover, and pushing a small black thing that looks like a transistor a bit closer to the cable. Problem solved.

Left hand & right hand drive cars must have different cables, but it seems all the sensors are inter-linked by common ground wires or something. So a bad signal from one will upset the others.


Good luck.
Xvisor
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:12 pm

Thnx for the replies, Changed the whole Throttlebody with TPS assembly and the problems solved. It runs nice, smooth and perfect idle Very Happy I am well pleased with that, it got a bit more silent to Smile The only thing i have to do anytime soon now is change my girls pussy cause it is well knackered.
Gentle Ben
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:09 am

Shocked
Xvisor
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:56 am

OMG lol I translated a funny wordplay from dutch straight into english .... actually not knowing if it's possible in english....
Benskett
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:03 pm

LMAO Very Happy

Good luck with that!
mals
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:23 am

Xvisor wrote:
The only thing i have to do anytime soon now is change my girls pussy cause it is well knackered.


Xvisor wrote:

OMG lol I translated a funny wordplay from dutch straight into english .... actually not knowing if it's possible in english....



If it is possible let me know where you can get it done Very Happy
Xvisor
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:22 am

mals wrote:
Xvisor wrote:
The only thing i have to do anytime soon now is change my girls pussy cause it is well knackered.


Xvisor wrote:

OMG lol I translated a funny wordplay from dutch straight into english .... actually not knowing if it's possible in english....



If it is possible let me know where you can get it done Very Happy


Embarassed Embarassed LOL
srr
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:31 am

Xvisor wrote:
The only thing i have to do anytime soon now is change my girls pussy cause it is well knackered.

How do you change that? Does it have torx screws as well?
Maybe it just needs carb cleaner Laughing
Gentle Ben
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 2:59 pm

Or an Eazi-bleed kit!
Dan
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:53 pm

o dear! Confused
schakal
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:29 am

well in that case you might need a eazi-pussy bleed kit my unlucky dutchman
Xvisor
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:32 am

Sweet who can fix me up with such a kit Wink And how do I use that?
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