ELECTRIC HEATED MIRROR PROBLEMS

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

hurray ,my 2 electric mirrors of ebay just arrived today ,i am well happy with that after a year of having no electric mirror functions on my drivers side.
my car is a black r19 1.8rt and the only difference between my cars electric mirrors and a r19 16v mirror is the little outside temp.thingy underneath the mirror assembly apart from that all the same .same switches ,same color wires etc.

the plastic covers of the mirrors i had of ebay had cracks on them and nobody else wanted them .so it was a good buy and i really did not need the blue coloured mirrors in my black r19 .so i will use my existing plastic cover and use the insides of the new mirrors .
here we go:

i have heard about a few people that cracked their mirror glass while trying to take it out .after messing with a few mirrors i found a few techniques and the best one is called "strong string behind the glass technique" Laughing

see that string ,its off a shoe but will do the job nicely

put the string behind the glass as shown

once you got something like this,pull the strings sharply

here is what comes out .note the alloy plates behind the glass
the mirror itself(back side)

and where it clips into. thats the bit i will remove in oreder to put into my existing black mirror assembly.there are 3 screws holding the whole lot as seen on picture

at this point i realise that the original mirror has been broken and had 2 more mirrors been stuck on top without removing the old broken ones.so i got 3 layers of mirrors which i dont really need if i want my mirrors to heat as well.

so i took all layers out without breaking the top one(thats the only usefull one)its a quite easy job when it comes to after market sticky tape type glass .a stanly knife will do it easy.
but when it comes to the original renault glass (the bottom layer) its a real pain.hopefully none of you will have the same problem.

here are the components (layers)of the glass bit

1-the plastic that clips into the assembly is also a frame for the glass

2-the glass itself .this is the after market one with the sticky pad on the back(this was stuck on top of the other 2 glasses) and this will hopefully do the job when i am finished.

3-this is the alloy bits that is originally stuck on the original glass from the back for heating purposes .as i had to remove the remaining broken glass stuck to these alloy pads i need to stick them back on the after market mirror with some sort of glue now.and put all three layers back together and i am not sure at this point that i will be able to have heated mirrors.

so when all these 3 layers come together ,it looks like this fromthe back of the plastic frame. note that little alloy circles going through the plastic frame to keep the mirror held by the plastic frame. there are 7 of those circle things spread evenly .
so its plastic at the back ,alloy heaters in the middle and the mirror in the front.

once they are all together i will put the 2 wires on the alloy heads heating the whole alloy surface up and the mirror itself of course .and clip the plastic frame into the assembly .
job done.
thanks for reading

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

nice one!

think i shall go pull mine apart and see if i can get the heating elements working again as they dont on mine.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

why did you do all of that? I mean pop the thing off the rivets etc?

Also pop the mirror off with a screwdriver, takes 2 seconds! Lever the tab out and thats it.

The problem with them not working is multiple layers of glass like Schakal showed and more commonly corrosions. Most of the time the wire connectors corrode away or the spade terminal breaks off.

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

heating is the most problemed issue on this mirrors .i hope you dont have layers of after market glass on your mirror like i had jonnyboy. there is 1 thing i did not mention on the project :
those 2 alloy plates have two little metalish square connectors . they sem to play some sort of fuse role in the action.they are situated between the two alloy plates

and they are put there with some brown creamy stuff which i think melts with the heat and lets the square connector slide down so that it will only touch one of the alloy plates which will disconnect the 2 alloys plates and stop them heating continously . of course on the picture you cant see how its working cause on the original renault glass the whole system is covered up with a brown sticky tape and the miror stick on top of that .

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

the brown stuff is dilecetric, its there acting as a resistor. otherwise its a direct short circuit which will melt the wiring if you remove it.

read your pm's mofo!

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

cant read the pms thats the problem.since the site has been moved into the new server ,my pc is acting gay.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

lol u cant blame the server!

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

they work now cos he replied to me.

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

yes it works but i think due to firefox a pop up window dont come up to say i have a pm.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

I also have a pop up blocker. I just went to my profile and turned the pm pop up off. Its not hard to look in the top corner to see if you have a new message.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

ive never had a pop up...didnt realise it did it! still i just look at the top.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

its like RSc, pops up you have a new private message.

its never worked, I just get the blip from the blocker so I turned it off.

Site Subscriber Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 4722

Jonnyboy wrote:

ive never had a pop up...didnt realise it did it! still i just look at the top.

pft!!

ive never had a pm!! Sad

so...!!

hehe.

I think Firefox is to good for its own self.

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

My mirrors dont have a tab, their the other type; not so easy

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

what other type huw??

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

Same as yours, with clips round the back

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

so whats wrong with them ??

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

Nothing i was just referring to Chris H's 'just lever the tab out' comment Laughing

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

i see , this method using the shoe lace is great really .i took both tabs out the same way no risk at all.just pull it sharp and it will come off .

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

They are the ones i'm referring to Huw. use a screwdriver to lever the tabs out.

the other wire clip style I have only seen once and they are crap, it never closs enough to pop the glass out.

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

i think he broke the glass using the screw driver chris ,he is a bit pissed . he will be allright .

what side was it huw ? drivers or passengers ?