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Dan
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:51 pm

but alot heavier so will be fecking slow
schakal
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:37 pm

so you are saying a clio 16v is faster than a r19 16v dan???

chris wont be happy
jjcymru
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:41 pm

19's are lighter.
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:52 pm

hmm, clios are lighter as it goes..

by qutie a bit.
Doc
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:02 pm

19's are just better Razz
jjcymru
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:07 pm

so why are 19 16vs faster 0-60 on paper than clio 16v?

renault figures btw?
Dan
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:03 am

the 19 16v is quicker than a clio, i dont know why, im sure chris can answer that
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:38 am

19 has a different diff ratio.

It launches better and pulls better than the clio.

Also i would also imagine the difference in inlet manifold runner length, downpipe and exhaust system would also make the 19 have more torque.

Clio Dp has been belted in at the dog bone mount to clear it, not very neat. Theres also a pair of rather tight 90 degree bends in the exhaust

The clio owners will come and argue but I and a fair few others with 19's have yet to be beaten by a clio 16V.
JB
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:43 am

inlet manifolds look the same to me...except for the bit exiting the side where the TB bolts on...which is a bit longer on one...apart from that they seem identical...
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:50 am

19 manifold sticks out further it has longer runners and the 19's TB flange sticks out further. both dictate more torque oin the 19's engone. but theres not much in it really.
JB
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:05 am

i dont think they stick out further...have compared two side by side.
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:07 am

thats why the clio one is different, its shorter to it doesn't have as much chance to hit the slam panel. with a dodgy dog bone the clio manifold won;t touch it but the 19 engine fits and with a dodgy dog bone it will touch.
JB
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:53 am

one way to solve this !!

Watch this space!
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:07 am

you gonna stick a 19 manifold on a clio 16v?

remember in the 19 the enging is also tilted back further to.
JB
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:19 am

No i am gunna place a 19 manifold on a flat surface next to a clio manifold...standing on their mounting faces.

thats if i still have a clio manifold lying around which i am sure i do...
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:27 am

I could go out and measure them but its raining. and its raining hard!
JB
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:37 am

rainin here too....feckin country.
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:42 am

apparently its going to stay for a while as well the rain!
Gentle Ben
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:34 am

If anything the GTT will fit easier into the 19's bay as it's a lot bigger than a Clio's!
david3533
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:06 am

if you can get a 16v in a 5 you can fit then to almost anything in other words fit a valver
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