Forced Air Induction Kits

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Just been lookin around for one of these cuz I'm bored, and I seem to have found quite a decent one for quite cheap.

http://www.apiroautostyle.com/products.php?product_id=38

It's carbon fibre and I've found it somewhere for only Â£99!! I say 'only' Â£99, which is quite a bit for an air filter, but it's nothing when compared to the Â£250 odd that pipercross want for the viper, which looks to be basically the same thing!

Site Subscriber Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 4722

aww, thought it was gonna be turbo kits Sad

never the less, still quite cheap.

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Oh yeah, sorry lol. Should have named the thread 'posh induction kits' or something Laughing

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

what is it doing apart from having an extended pipe to get the air from the front of the car ??

does it have a fan inside to blow air inside the filter etc ? if not thats bullshit i can make one of them myself for a fiver at the end of the day

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Yeah, so could I, but I doubt it would shield heat from the engine bay tho, which is the main point of these things surely. You got bits of carbon fibre lyin around have ya? Materials are important here surely? Like bodge one out of things you find in your shed and it's gonna shield heat as much as a.........wank?

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

still not convinced mate ,i am sure there is some heat resistant material out there you can wrap around a pipe ,plus flowing air from the front of the car will keep it cool as feck as long as you can position the thing right without too many kinks

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Alright schaks, you're clearly against the idea of these things and could do far better yourself, but I just thought it was an alright deal. Something basically the same as a pipercross viper, but less than half the price

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

i am not against the idea mate ,more air gives more power even though it makes you burn more fuel .i am just against paying shit loads for these sort of stuff .
but at the end of the day money is yours and i got fuck all to say about it

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Yeah I can understand why you're against paying shit loads for this kinda stuff. Most people are. Hence the entire point of this post. This kind of thing is usually around Â£250. I found one for Â£99. Enuff said

Site Subscriber Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3547

it looks good, the whole point is that carbon fibre shields heat better than aluminium etc, and the only inlet for that is the ducting which is mounted low, and has constant cold'ish' air.thus supposidly improving performance.but personally i'd just make a filter heat shield out of ally, for less than a fiver, and use the existing air feed pipe for the k+n, will have kinda the same affect but is alot cheaper! and will probly be easier to start on cold mornings, weather the efi is affected by this i dont know!

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Wouldn't a home made ally one actually be worse than not having one at all? Cuz I would be guessing that if you put a bit of ally in the engine bay & then go for a drive, by the time you got home that piece of ally would be pretty damn hot if you were to touch it. Like you probably wouldn't actually be able to hold it for long. Now, take that rediculously hot piece of ally.........and wrap it around your air filter. Hmmmmm

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 2929

Hill power relocate the standard induction filter into the passenger side of the battery compartment. (technical term) Very Happy

Would this not be yet a cheaper alternative if you did it yourself?

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Yeah have seen that, but.......umm....have you looked in the engine bay of a 19 recently? I can't see a way of getting no air filter up there! Not unless you re-locate the brake fluid reservoir and start cutting holes out of the bulkhead of the car. I could be wrong though. Not sure how the clio one gets there to be honest. If Hill Power had prices on their site then I'd know if it was a cheaper alternative or not lol, but by the time I've cut holes in me car, moved things around & basically made a mess of everything........I dunno if it'd be worth it. Rather buy something you can just slap in. Job done like

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 2929

Yea I think some things have to be relocated and for Hill power to do it is about Â£100.

should be able to DIY it for around Â£30 I'd have thought? (as long as you have an induction kit already)

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

As long as you could get piping to go back that far etc, and the current air pipe thing faces towards the front of the car, so you'd have to have a really sharp 's' bend to then make it go back towards that bit? Or you'd have to bodge something straight onto the throttle body? I dunno!

I would rather the thought of air comin from the front of the car straight up a pipe into the filter like the Â£99 one, rather than the hill power style one. But I remember there being a post on here a while back saying that they were quite good because of air just behind the bonnet being a really high pressure or something. Can't remember now, won't pretend I know what I'm on about!

I just wanna do something with me air intake cuz an induction kit sat in the world's hottest engine bay surely ain't gonna be all that great is it

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 2929

I know what you mean. It's less work and hastle to get a "viper" type filter then it is to relocate your existing filter. Sometime You pay a little more for convieniance.

Tis a fair price Â£99.

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

I thought Â£99 was a fair price too, but I can see everyone else on here disagreeing! Very Happy

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Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

the relocation of the filter to the scuttle is for the clios and requires holes cutting and removal of the sceeen wash bottle (replaced with a bag).

Its a good location as in the scuttle theres always highish pressure (with the fan off but the vents open you still get a good flow of air through).

Anyway if you have no skills or cannot bew arsed then its a good cheap way to get a viper.

TBh neither the viper or that are the best way forward, to get decent induction you need a decent sized air box which opens up (slowing the air down) then feed the engine from that air box.

Site Subscriber Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 458

I devised a small heat shield out of a piece of bucket and foil tape. the bucket won't conduct heat as much as metal and the foil reflects it. it is to stop heat from the radiator and fan blowing straight in.

The 3 pipes feed fom front splitter, next to fog light and original air feed from under head lamp. still no perfect but noticed a difference in mid range seemed to give a little more pull than before

the piece of bucket is cable tied to the water pipe

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

i say spend the Â£99, then report back to us whether you felt it was worth spending that much on it.