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 Help 16v clio not starting
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domn8
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:59 pm

jumped in it tonight to drive home from work but it wont start, there was no noise from the fuel pump and the one light on the dash which normally lights up didnt, looks like a heart monitor. What can it be, what can I do? Dom
domn8
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:14 pm

please!
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:16 pm

fuse or main injection relay
domn8
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:20 pm

there was no fuse in the aux box under the bonnet? not even a metal contact in the slot. Where is the main injection relay? Cheers for reply
domn8
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:26 pm

I dont mean that ive sorted the problem, just when I checked the fuses the lid said there sould be one at a said position but there wasnt one.
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:56 pm

its jumped off another fuse in the box on the back of the fuse board. Its a shite set up.

The relays are beside the fuses are they not.
domn8
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:18 am

well today we have checked the pump by bridging 3+5 terminal on the relay and its fine, relay is ok as Ive swapped it with another 16v.

the light on the right of the dash is surely significant ^^^ -that kinda design like a heart monitor, which is the ECU isnt it, could it be the ECU?
Chris H
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:48 pm

what about the main injection relay? you know the first thing I mentioned!
domn8
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:18 pm

which one is it? Oh and Ive replaced every relay in the box

What is the light on the dash then, ECU? Dom
Chris H
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:35 pm

yes ECU. Make sure the diagnostic socket in the glovebox has the lid puched on properly as this has a jumper which allows the light to function.

is it sparking?

what immobilisers do you have?
domn8
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:37 pm

no immob, was removed 2 yrs ago. again pump works but not without bridging relay

whats a jumper?
domn8
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:41 pm

come to think of it when we turned it over with the pump running it didnt fire, is it worth replacing the ECU?
Chris H
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:46 pm

jumper, woolen item of clothing to keep you warm/metal contact inside a diagnostic socket lid that allows the light to function! lol

replace the ECU and say theres a wiring problem and you blow that one, what use is that?

So we can assume its not firing for sure then?
domn8
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:50 pm

I might have known the jumper one was coming lol!
well unless it was just that not enough fuel had got through, seems the pump, relay are fine but something in between-wow Im good. seriously though this is going to cost me dear isnt it?
Chris H
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:52 pm

depends on what it is matey.

do the dash lkights coem on fine? does the pump come on if you wiggle the key?
domn8
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:53 pm

dash lights yes fuel pump only when relay is bridged
Chris H
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:57 pm

earth leads ok?
domn8
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:00 pm

dont know actually, which ones should I check /where, thanks for your help
Chris H
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:04 pm

all of them, especially the main body to engine strap, if they fail/go high resistance then the ECU is the next best earth path adnt hey don;t like it!
domn8
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:05 pm

oh fook I hate cars sometimes
domn8
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:57 am

could it be the crank sensor because there's nothing coming from the ECU to the fuel pump relay?
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