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 HELP I've just done something incredibly stupid
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iainc
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Joined: 01 Jan 2005
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:45 am

Embarassed
I've just topped my break fluid up with water and screenwash!!! What the f*ck do I do now? The car and hence the pump have not been turned on but I've no idea how to bleed it.

Can anybody help?
iainc
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:49 am

it's a kangoo diesel by the way
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:53 am

lol

how much did you stick in? Not that it really matters.

Gte a turkey baster or something, or if needs abe a hose suck it out then let it out into a jar.

Then pour in brake fluid.
iainc
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:11 am

Just found out it's the power stearing liquid not the break fluid
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:23 am

you don't know the underbonnet very well do you!

Less of a problem with the ps fluid but you really want to get it out matey. Drain the oil and refill it.
Fat Dave
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:43 am

lol, like chris said mate, drain the oil, fill it back up with power steering fluid, and i recommend you never open the bonnet again Very Happy

you live and learn i suppose Wink
schakal
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:57 am

you should not be able to put too much of water in there in the first place as the max level is on the top of the bottle.so you must be talking about 50ml of water (max) and this is of course if your power steering was not too low ?
as the water is much lighter than oil it will sit down the bottom ,so that 50ml of water you stuck in should be by the drain plug allready,in that case idont undestand why you should drain the whole system rather than the water only ???
may be chris h can enlighten us a bit more pls
stan
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:02 pm

why would he be topping it up if it was full?!
schakal
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:08 pm

yes water is heavier so as i mentioned earlier it will sit at the bottom and i am just assuming that due to simple rules of physics.

he did not mention how much water he stuck in the tank and i know from my renault that power steering fluid would not usually be less than the min mark unless you got a leak or something ,which he would notice by now.

i am not saying i am perfectly right,its justa bit of a brain gymnastics. so i am expecting some wise person to prove i am wrong (if i am )
stan
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:18 pm

I was only messing!

It would need to be drained regardless off where it would sit in the reservoir, since when the pump operates it would mix and emulsify
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:21 pm

and bugger up the rack if he added enough water in.
iainc
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 2:02 pm

thanks for all your help!!!

rac man drained it, apparantly about the 12th Kangoo he's done this year - which makes me feel a bit better.
Neal
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:48 pm

12 kangoos this year eh? he's been a very busy boy today hasn't he Wink
huwwatkins
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:51 pm

schakal wrote:
yes water is heavier so as i mentioned earlier it will sit at the bottom and i am just assuming that due to simple rules of physics.

he did not mention how much water he stuck in the tank and i know from my renault that power steering fluid would not usually be less than the min mark unless you got a leak or something ,which he would notice by now.

i am not saying i am perfectly right,its justa bit of a brain gymnastics. so i am expecting some wise person to prove i am wrong (if i am )


You mean Oil is Heavier than water?
schakal
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:01 am

lets put it this way ;
oil is much denser than water and that makes oil float in water and obviously water sinks down the bottom.
you can actually do an experiment athome to see what happens .put a bit of sunflower oil etc in a glass and add some water .you will see they wont mix and as i am saying again .the water will sink down the bottom of the glass and oil will float on top of water,and thats why i sugessted that the first thing that will purge out of the drain plug would be water assuming that the drain plug is at the bottom of the power steering system.
Neal
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:33 am

schakal wrote:

oil is much denser than water and that makes oil float in water and obviously water sinks down the bottom.


you mean oil is less dense than water Razz
schakal
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:04 am

Neal 19 16v wrote:
schakal wrote:

oil is much denser than water and that makes oil float in water and obviously water sinks down the bottom.


you mean oil is less dense than water Razz


yes thats the one neal well spotted mate.
whatever i say ,OIL WILL FLOAT .
huwwatkins
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:15 am

Yeah, sorry, was having a stupid moment Razz
schakal
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:20 am

huwwatkins wrote:
Yeah, sorry, was having a stupid moment Razz


the same here mate i cocked up Crying or Very sad with the wording at some point .but its all cleared now Smile

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JB
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:18 am

lol got there in the end boys.

i see where schakel is coming from tho....the water would sink to the btm of the reseviour (sp?) and so siphoning the top fluid out could just remove some oil and not the offending water...

which makes draining the whole lot and refilling (with correct stuff) the best thing to do.
schakal
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:24 pm

when i made a hole down the bottom of that plastic bottle ,the first thing coming out was the water itself.after all the water poured down oil started coming out.
my idea was just taking the drain plug out a little to let the water out and once the oil starts coming out ,just tighten the plug and top it up .rather than draining the whole system.
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