HI TO ALL

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

First I would like to say hi to all you Retro Renault owners. This is the first time I have visited this site. As a true Retro Renault car owner and a love for performance Renaults, I look forward to talking to you all...... Andie.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

Good stuff.

What type of car do you have Andie?

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

Hi Chris, I have two Renault 21's. 1 x ph1 Turbo. 1 x ph1 TTR.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

good stuff.

You know what you should do, yep thats right put pics of them up!

2wd or quadra T?

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

Both front wheel drive, they never made a 4x4 in the ph1. I like the ph1's not just because they were the quickest at standard, but a better engine to tune and The clutch and gearbox will take a lot more..........

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

If you've got this months Performance GTi mag, theres a picture of one of my cars on the bottom left of page 108. ( PIC OF THE BUNCH )........ Cool

Site Subscriber Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 4722

invest your self in a digital camera..

then take photos till your hearts content

also posting them at the same time..wud be cool.

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

My investment went into my Retro car. Sorry... Wink

Site Subscriber Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 4722

hehe

for that..i shall let you off..

:p

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

Just in case your interested." The TTR ". Six months working on the setup, Two years on the build. Â£7000 + in new parts and well over 1000 hours work Rolling Eyes

. Still work in progress ......... Very Happy

Retroholic Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 5685

Hi Andie!

Whats the TTR then?

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

TTR = Renault 21. Race prepared, Twin Turbo, sprint car. (Road Legal). Please don't ask for spec anyone, that would take all day..................... ( 0-60 under 5 sec ). Top speed geared to 150mph.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

whats the spec? lol

You have a straight 4 twin turbo? Thats not very clever is it.

How do you propse to get under 5 secs to 60 with a fwd car like the 21?

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

"I NEW IT". Go to 21Turbo Owners club. Member 138. (members cars). See part build and spec....... Car weighs 1000k + 300lb ft 4000 rev's.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

didnt trevors old red 21t do 0-60 in something sily like 4 or 5 secs? with a lot of no2...?

Gay Rights Activist Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 1268

Chris, your so synical!!

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

me cynical? Never.

The main problem in getting any fwd car under 5 seconds is traction. There are plenyt that can do it but run solid rear struts and wheelie bars, whheelies bars on fwd, you having a laugh. No it preloads the front suspension so the wheels don't lose traction.

The whole twin turbo things on a straight 4 is plain engineering wrongness. Lots more lag and less ultimate power, even if you use a pair T15 or whatever it is the wee 3 cyl lumps use.

But then again if you get it working then fair enough.

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

No lag. Two stage boost . first @ 2600rpm. 10psi. Second @ 3900. 20psi..... This stops traction loss and wheelspin. Trev's car ran 4.75 0-60 with nos, but his car was at least 600 lb heaver. My best so far has been 4.9 0-60.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

so its sequential turbos then? What you using to switch them?

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

ive seen trev's car once drivin round swansea...he sold it didnt he? i saw it once parked in Renault swansea and once driving just down the road from it....unless it was a replica...it looked like the beast in question to me...got a couple of vids of it somewhere.

Level 2 User Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 44

The two turbo's run inline. Same downpipe one after the other, yes Chris, sequential turbos. First turbo gives first stage boost, then the second turbo provides the additional boost when the wastegate opens from the first... Both turbos run boost through their own intercoolers before the feed back into the engine. This keeps the air temp down and stops the lag that you get with a larger intercooler. Because of this I can measure the boost from each turbo from inside the car. This makes life easy when it comes to setting up two turbos. The overall boost can also be ajusted from inside the car........The setup now works, but not without all those other ajustments. ECU. TPS. APS. BPsolenoid. Boost pressure limiter. Fuel. Injectors and so on............. THE CAR HAD ITS FAULTS Rolling Eyes

, had, may not be the right word, theres always something needing ajustment, but we love our Retro Cars................ Trev's car was a beast, its now owned by Lyndon the old 21 turbo club president.The engine's ok but the bodys in need of some work. The car cost Â£5000 to build and it beat ktec's Â£20000 R5 GTT. Yes it was some car Cool

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