If you could build a R19 16v from scratch....

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What improvements / modifications would you make? Within reason here, nothing super silly. I mean like design flaws, bad ideas etc? Even little things! State PH1 or PH2 or both.

For my poison, PH2 I'd have:

2.0 16v as standard
Swoopy Dash
Diffrent colour dash illumination
Shorter airel, maybe a rear bee sting
A visable exhaust on PH2 Chamades

More will come to me, but any others?

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ph1 hatch or chammy dunno, feck it hatch, looking like a gangsters not the be all and end all.

2l 16V but a decent one.
front undertray
better designed guttering for the bonnet vent
rear under tray

stock exhaust etc on ph1 is fine.

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i like the 2litre 16v engine
plus wider arches !!!!!
better bonnet vent for intake purposes nothing ott though
respray in the darkest and shiniest black you can get
full underbody sealant
also clear film around the edges of the arches like some ferraris have

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Chris H wrote:

ph1 hatch or chammy dunno, feck it hatch, looking like a gangsters not the be all and end all.

2l 16V but a decent one.
front undertray
better designed guttering for the bonnet vent
rear under tray

stock exhaust etc on ph1 is fine.

plus a RHD swoopy dash Smile

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erm meganes etc have the clear film as well schakal

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Chris H wrote:

erm meganes etc have the clear film as well schakal

never noticed mate

it would be nice though thinking about how a simple addition to the arches could protect them for years

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Nothing

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schakal wrote:

Chris H wrote:

erm meganes etc have the clear film as well schakal

never noticed mate

it would be nice though thinking about how a simple addition to the arches could protect them for years

I find it makes corrosion worse.

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more access to the cambelt side of the engine Laughing

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All of the above, plus I would get rid of the torsion bar rear suspension and have normal springs, nothing to do with changing the handling, that's good enough as it is, but just because the torsion bar is a pain in the arse, and also gets in the way of the exhaust. Yes, I'd be happy to sacrifice the small bit of boot space required for that. Nice weight saving there too.

Secondly, I'd have the engine head designed 'the other way round' i.e. inlet at the back, exhaust at the front, for ease of turboing.

Gearbox would have to be significantly stronger, JC5 at least as standard, preferably a beefed up one.

Better design of front strut top mounts/bearings. One that doesnt preclude any possibility of getting the poxy things apart.

The steering wheel and pedals would be central to the driver's seat, not offset.

Gearstick very slightly further back

Better quality control on the line with regards to rust protection around the arches

Most of all, I'd want a coupe version!!!

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Oh, and I'd like to be able to make a single wipe of the screen without switching the wipers on, then off if you know what i mean. A momentary push of the stalk upwards or something.

Also, the dash should be all black and the door pockets would match etc., not black/grey two tone, which if I'm honest, looks bollocks

Wouldn't mind the clio style oil gauges either Embarassed

Level 10 User Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 620

i think my ideal 19 would be the following
2.0 16v lump
uprated box and clutch with shortshift maybe 6spd to keep revs down at high speeds
lower at the front than it is now as well know they sit high
rear wheel drive for powersliding oooo the fun
lether as standrd with heated seats
smaller steering wheel summik like i got on the scoob a 300mm momo millenium
make a few ltd edition 19s nothing to fancy different vent slightly bigger spoiler and gold wheels and have a plate inside to show what number
try and get a ph1 boddy kit(skirts, frnt and rear bumper) on a ph2

mabe more but thts what id like to have

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Hmmmm very much liking the coupe idea mate.

Site Subscriber Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 247

id like to c wide arches like the clio williams/16v and a helthy turbo lump pushing 200bhp as standard!!! with a bullet proof gearbox and an upto date dash for sure

while im hear is there another dash that will bolt straight into a 19???

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yeah another 19's! lol

You can fit the megane dash but its the worst dash ever designed in my eyes!

Some mongo designed it and you can only operate the switches if you are either 3 foot tall or outside the car

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ok then ill just play about with fibre glass then in stead and do custom dash Twisted Evil

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I'd also like them to come in a really dark graphite colour. Almost black, but not quite. Metallic with quite a large grain/flake to it.

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:26 am

Gearbox, better designed,

Cheaper 2nd hand cabby parts i.e Front Window motor Â£200 from renault and rare as rockin horse shite elsewhere

nothing else

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How hard is it to get the meg dash in? much harder than a like for like swap?

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Neal 19 16v wrote:

Oh, and I'd like to be able to make a single wipe of the screen without switching the wipers on, then off if you know what i mean. A momentary push of the stalk upwards or something

God, you guys & ur vast knowledge of 19's......and u dunno how to do a single wipe of the screen lol Rolling Eyes

Just flick the stalk back towards the steering wheel. As if you were gonna hold it back to spray & wipe, but don't pull it back all the way to spray the water. There's like a 'step' in the stalk. So just flick it back a bit (not far enough to spray the water) and there you go.......single wipe!

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i know that... but it wipes three times when you do that mate... thats too much....i want one wipe and one wipe only