JB P1 Hatch

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

more bodywork...got a new toy to play with:

ebay

rear arch:

a little grinding:

the vent...could see the bubbles on top before and on the inside it was plastered with rubber/silicone stuff...as r a few other areas on the car...
after a flash with the grinder, i found a lump of filler in the hole...looks like someone just pushed a blob of filler in without cutting or treating any of the rust just to hide it...

inside, after removing all the shite it revealed a rusty mess...not too bad tho...nothing a bit of filler or fibreglass cant handle...structurally its mainly all there...it'll be fine.

Bodywork Pics

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

bah...got areas all ready to paint last week...it was about weds..i had done the primer before hand...3 patches...big on on drivers door getting rid of key scratch, and frt two arches....

so they were all primed up...got them masked up ready for top coat....literally as i was shaking the can ready it started to rain!! u couldnt make it up!

so covered in plastic sheeting (bin bags) to await finer weather...well its rained almost every day since! typical!

but last night it was fine so i got it done...altho the tape i had put on last week has become solid and very difficult to remove (twat!) but i got top coat on at last...

ill leave it for a week or so now before touchin it with wet n dry to prep it for lacquer.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

more bodywork...

been havin fun with the angle grinder...cut out as much rust as i could see on the o/s rear arch...wasnt much there,...treated it with kurust:

...and then started filling it...first swipe of filler:

that will finish that side off, once i shape it and prep it for paint.

the vent is ready...borrowed some fibre glass stuff of stan to put on the inside, then will fill the outside and paint. didnt get round to it last night as the temp dropped off and everything was taking ages to dry so i will doit later today.

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the n/s rear arch, i suspected it had been had a go at before as the shape was a bit funny. there was a small spot of rust coming thru anyway so i started having a nose with the grinder....

soon became apparent that this has had a new arch welded in. too far out imo hence the poor shape i noticed...

tacked on all along...

heres the rust that has come thru...since the job i presume...unless they didnt do it proper...but looks ok. saves me doin it...i canjust treat the rust and fill it...

it will be fine once finished.

drive , car, dads car, my other car, neighbours car were covered in dust after grinder thru all the filler lol.

more added here Hatch Body Pics

oh..got some top coat on the previously delayed primed areas at last..just need to leave it for a bit now before flatting it back for lacquer.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

not a vast amount of progress due to shit weather....but i keep having a go everyday...just concentrating on finishing the body work.

got the vent sorted, cleaned it all up, fibreglassed the holes from the inside and filler on the outside...the inside has been painted (roughly - who cares its inside) and the outside is primed ready to go...

o/s rear arch has been filled, primed and painted...needs flatting back again and another topcoat as a fucking lfy landed on it when it was wet and i picked it off leavin a hole in the paint....gay.

but its coming together. within a few days, all that will be left on the body (ext.) will be the n/s rear arch, which will need a bit of welding to fill a gap and to stop the new bit flapping...then filling and painting.

i also plan to get the wheels refurbed back to new...better than new.

engine-wise? the bottom end in the other progress report will be used, along with a nice head i am working on...see the other report soon for info.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

Righty...haven't updated here for a while...nothing exciting happening. I seem to be forever fiddling with something but cannot find anything to write about.

Only bodywork has been continuing.

Right, the o/s rear arch is done as above, heres pics.
[img:600:800:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body37.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]

been painted various times, but whole car is going to be painted now, will rub the whole lot down and make it a coplete respray job. Myself. I have invested in air compressor and kit...

got round to sorting the n/s rear arch finally. Well to be honest I am still fiddling with it making it perfect, but it is essentially done.

heres the damage after clearing all the crap out,
[img:640:480:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body38.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]
[img:640:480:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body39.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]

plate cut, bent and fitted into position ready for welding...
[img:640:480:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body41.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]

seem to have missed the bit after i welded it in so no pics...god knows how...i have tooooo many pics on my pc it is overwhelming to keep organised and on top of things.

anyway..

after welding it in been filling it, rubbing it, filling it rubbing it, religiously almost every day til its perfect, still 100% happy yet.
[img:800:600:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body43.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]
[img:800:600:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body44.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]
[img:800:600:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body45.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]
[img:800:600:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body46.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]

bit of primer
[img:800:600:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body47.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]
[img:600:800:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body48.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]

i had filled a bir of rust on the frt n/s wing, but it was still bugging me as there was also a ding...so i tapped it in a bit with hammer and fillled/rubbed.
[img:800:600:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body40.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]

so...where the feck am i? major bits of external body sorted i think...i am now in the process of rubbing it all back ready for painting.

will refurb the wheels myself soon.

took side skirts off and the sills are lovely and clean, no rust, altho i did find this trapped in the side skirt!
[img:1152:864:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/rock.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]

yes thats a fuckin great rock about the size of a tangerine! lol!

also, cant remember if i showed this before but i got a black rear parcel shelf for it rather than the grey one that was in there...much better!

[img:640:480:80a5af7060]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/blkshelf.jpg[/img:80a5af7060]

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

more arsing around on sunday, roasting my back nicely at the same time.

More fucking about with that rear arch. Discovered filler primer is a good thing.

pulled the frt bumper off for some reason...not entirely sure why but i did, think it was something to do with painting the car, making it easier, but looking at it i decided made no diff,...stuck it back on.

i also decided to sort of some more rust. the subframe was pretty manky, lots of surface rust all over it, so i treated the whole lot and any other rust i could see in the area, and then hammerited it all...just for protection more than looks....but looks ok...its only an engine bay after all.

tonight i got both bearings out of the frt hubs, ready for new ones. they are both tbh the hubs off the chamade as they died so i donated the hatch's hubs to it...

techy to follow on bearings.

Hatch Misc

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

Did some finding out about painting, costs mainly, for paint, lacquer, activator, primer and thinners i'm looking at about 70ish quid.

not cheap but a lot cheaper than paying someone to do it. still unsure tho. May hire a unit to do it in or something. ill defo prime it at home, i can manage that.

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wheels, got the tyres removed off them so I can start refurbing them. Plan is to strip all the old paint off and fill the kurb dents in and respray them, pucker and new.

[img:1152:864:e1416826d7]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/1.jpg[/img:e1416826d7]
here they are before touching them

[img:1152:864:e1416826d7]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/2.jpg[/img:e1416826d7]
tbh this is the worst of the kurbing, its just minor scratches, they are in overall great condition.

I started off by applying paint stripped, great stuff, burns your skin and all!, then i whisked over them with a wire brush dril attachment to get most of the crap off...back pretty much to bare metal.

[img:1152:864:e1416826d7]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/5.jpg[/img:e1416826d7]

Will sand them nice n smooth next and fill in the scratches.

Wheels Gallery here.

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Made a start on a rocker cover too....also paint stripper and wire attachment....wil paint that too.

[img:1152:864:e1416826d7]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/rocker/2.jpg[/img:e1416826d7]

Rocker Gallery here.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

finished off cleaning the rocker with wire brushes and wet n dry etc. washing clean with soapy water, then rinsing with boiling water.

rocker cover is currently drying...painting anywhere other than in a booth just seems a nightmare. still its just a rocker cover.

here it is primed yesterday, today it is painted and lacquered. pics tomoz after i polish it up.

the wheels got on my nerves, i got one wheels stripped ready to paint but that took ages, so i have dropped the other three offf to a local shot blasting company to blast the others back to bare metal. saves a lot of effort and will be neater tbh. should get them back tomoz.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

rocker cover and wing mirrors painted, lacquered and polished!

[img:1152:864:6a9dbe732e]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/mirrors1.jpg[/img:6a9dbe732e]
[img:1152:864:6a9dbe732e]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/mirrors2.jpg[/img:6a9dbe732e]
[img:1152:864:6a9dbe732e]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/mirrors3.jpg[/img:6a9dbe732e]
[img:1152:864:6a9dbe732e]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/mirrors4.jpg[/img:6a9dbe732e]

rocker and mirrors...

[img:1152:864:6a9dbe732e]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/rocker/10.jpg[/img:6a9dbe732e]

more rocker cover pics here

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

right, got the wheels back yesterday....dissapointing.

The blasters had used far too coarse a grit, so my wheels came back with a surface texture comparible to a sugar lump!!!

[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/9.jpg[/img:a871244232]
[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/10.jpg[/img:a871244232]

not very happy. tbh i did thnk if i had all four like that i would have just painted them, but as it stood, I had only sent 3 to be done, so 3 out of 4 would be odd.

So I had little choice but to rub them all down by hand anyway! Annoyed! Thank god for flap wheels.

got em done anyway...

[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/12.jpg[/img:a871244232]
[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/15.jpg[/img:a871244232]

flap wheel in a flexishaft thingy in a drill....nice when it works, nasty when it catchs the flex and leaps out ur hand like a possessed cat!
[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/fuckeddrill.jpg[/img:a871244232]

today, went and bought things...etch primer, and lacquer mainly. Got the lacquer in tin form, so I could use the proper spray gun to do the lacquering.

[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/spraygun.jpg[/img:a871244232]

primer...
[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/16.jpg[/img:a871244232]

panited...
[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/18.jpg[/img:a871244232]

and lacquered...
[img:864:1152:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/19.jpg[/img:a871244232]
[img:864:1152:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/20.jpg[/img:a871244232]
[img:1152:864:a871244232]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/wheels/24.jpg[/img:a871244232]

More Wheel pics here

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

hmm tum ti tum....been doin bits here and there...nothing really exciting worth writing about everytime, as its usually just more rubbing of bodywork here and there.

discovered i need to do a bit of welding on the sills, but nothing I cant handle.

stripped the back a bit to rub it down ready for painting:

took the boot lock out as it was very stiff and sticky to give it a clean and a grease...turns out the bit that connects to the c/l solenoid is broken so it was never working with the central locking....may sort it...may not bother tbh.

also finished the wheels off completely by finishing the caps to go with them...

check out the reflection in that baby!

More Wheels Pics

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

got some frt struts delivered today from a chap breaking a 19. Â£35 for the pair seems reasonable...but they look well used of course...think i will strip them down to grease up the bearing (even replace them!) and paint up the rusty parts...

i wanted new but thats not gunna happen for a while, so at least with these i can get the car on 4 wheels again...well when i get another wheel bearing.

filled with WD40 to try and begin thinking about undoing them...

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

made a start on the sills...

did the easy one first, which i just got to work on with angle grinder and knotted wire attachment to rip the bubbling underseal off.

bloody underseal just hides rust from you...you cant see it going on under neath, so rip back as much as you can to reveal any rust.

then i treated it and hammeraited the whole sill...well the vunerable bit, ie the vertical flange and the inside edges...cant really see it in the pics but its done.

other side will need some welding...tackle that another day.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

re the struts...

managed to get one apart for a clean up, it practically didnt turn, very rusty:-

[img:864:1152:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis1.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

[img:1152:864:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis2.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

[img:1152:864:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis4.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

[img:1152:864:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis5.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

the bearing was dry as feck and all the bearings and bearing surfaces are pitted and nasty..but for now i am just gunna clean it uo and reuse it as i dont wanna sink more money in it now til it is a running car..then will treat it to all new suspension.

bearing cleaned up and regreased...

[img:1152:864:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis8.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

cleaned it up..

[img:1152:864:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis7.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

gave the bits a like of hammerite, cos i can...

[img:1152:864:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis9.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

the other strut didnt wanna play ball, so as usual the end of the strut where you insert the allen key split so thats the end of gettting that apart...i have another old strut which is in better condition with no spring, so i think i will destroy this rusty fecker to get the spring off to stick on the other good strut...looks it has a hole in it...get rid i say.

rusty as feck...

[img:640:480:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis11.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

holed...

[img:640:480:6c26adc2b8]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/strutdis14.jpg[/img:6c26adc2b8]

Hatch Misc Pics

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

Well today I went to have a chat with my friendly local body shop man...top bloke, really helpful and gives me loads of advice, his work is pucker too. Got himself actually in the unit I used to have as a workshop where i used to work...got himself a nice little setup by the looks of it as there are many main dealers round the area and whenever I have been there, he has been fixing a Jaguar of some sort, so must have a good deal going on.

Anyway...Encouragement to the max and I decided to go for it...

bought this little lot today...

[img:1152:864:b41ebc1b6a]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body54.jpg[/img:b41ebc1b6a]

thats paint (tungy grey) and lacquer and necessary activators and thinners to do the whole job!!!!

so watch this space...car being painted ASAP.

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to get the car ready for painting..need to go over the whole lot with 800 wet n dry again...then its ready...

also just need to finish off this rusty sill....

the rear o/s sill was a bit rotten in a few spots so I just cut a whole chunk out!

[img:1152:864:b41ebc1b6a]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body50.jpg[/img:b41ebc1b6a]

big chunk cut out and will let in a nice whole new piece tomoz. its all been cleaned up since that pic and slapped a load of hammerite into the hole.

made up a nice piece to let in...

[img:1152:864:b41ebc1b6a]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body52.jpg[/img:b41ebc1b6a]

the little join in the middle is because i had to slit it to put a bend in it as the sill at the rear isnt straight, there is a kink in it...so had to shape the peice to fit well..

[img:1152:864:b41ebc1b6a]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body53.jpg[/img:b41ebc1b6a]

tomoz first thing that bit will be welded in. and sealed with hammerite.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

oh and a hub is in the garage having a new bearing pressed in so the car will be on three wheels tomoz! what a novelty!

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

Got the plate welded in...haven't tidied it up yet, will grind it off tomoz to tidy up a bit and then skim over with fibre glass methinks.

[img:864:1152:61daaaaf7a]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body55.jpg[/img:61daaaaf7a]

[img:1152:864:61daaaaf7a]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body57.jpg[/img:61daaaaf7a]

nice football eh Razz

got the hub back from garage so will put a third wheel on tomoz hopefully and finish that patch and continue prep for paint.

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oh yeah, got attacked by the angle grinder today as well, tidying up the plate, the thing let loose and jumped on me, eating through my trousers goin feckin nuts! had to rip it off by its tail (wire) and throw it clear...feckin thing.

[img:480:640:61daaaaf7a]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/trousers1.jpg[/img:61daaaaf7a]

[img:480:640:61daaaaf7a]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/trousers2.jpg[/img:61daaaaf7a]

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

Amongst other things, I got new strut ready to go on...only one for now as I have only got one whole ready and only one hub with a bearing in it...

strut ready to go on...
[img:864:1152:5aa7a566cf]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/newstrutready.jpg[/img:5aa7a566cf]

hub/disk assy back on...
[img:1152:864:5aa7a566cf]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hubbackon.jpg[/img:5aa7a566cf]

and strut on!...
[img:864:1152:5aa7a566cf]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/strutonarty.jpg[/img:5aa7a566cf]
arty lens flare eh!

and finally...a wheel!! oh the novelty!

[img:1152:864:5aa7a566cf]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/thirdwheelon.jpg[/img:5aa7a566cf]

[img:1152:864:5aa7a566cf]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/thirdwheelon3.jpg[/img:5aa7a566cf]

also the state of the skuttle under the battery tray caought my eye, so I cleaned that out and gave it a nice protective coat of hammerite and cleaned up the bits...

[img:1152:864:5aa7a566cf]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/skuttle.jpg[/img:5aa7a566cf]

[img:1152:864:5aa7a566cf]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/batttray.jpg[/img:5aa7a566cf]

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

finished welding the plate in. Ground back the welds so I could fill it with fibreglass...you can really see the angle too at the rear of the sill i had to follow with the plate.

[img:864:1152:d33de1e782]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body58.jpg[/img:d33de1e782]

[img:1152:864:d33de1e782]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body60.jpg[/img:d33de1e782]

and slapped some fibreglass in there.

[img:1152:864:d33de1e782]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/body/body63.jpg[/img:d33de1e782]

will shape that a bit better and slap some hammerite over it.

body wise...the plan left is:

finish o/s sill (75% done)

finish rubbing down, little bit of primer here and there.

Paint! (gulp!)

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

got another hub and bearing ready:

[img:1152:864:2dfebab77b]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/newhub.jpg[/img:2dfebab77b]

prepared another strut, having to salvage bits from one or two others...

remains of one strut after being mullered with angle grinder:

[img:1152:864:2dfebab77b]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/bustedstrut.jpg[/img:2dfebab77b]

remains of one of the bearings, you can see the impressions where the bal bearings have sat for what looks like a LONG time. the stuff between them is solid!:

[img:1152:864:2dfebab77b]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/oldstrutbearing.jpg[/img:2dfebab77b]

painted as well:

[img:1152:864:2dfebab77b]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/hatchmisc/paintedstrutbits.jpg[/img:2dfebab77b]

painted the sill patch too.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

four wheels woo!

[img:1152:864:a19020887f]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/4wheels1.jpg[/img:a19020887f]

[img:1152:864:a19020887f]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/4wheels2.jpg[/img:a19020887f]

[img:1152:864:a19020887f]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/4wheels3.jpg[/img:a19020887f]

and battery tray back in scuttle...

[img:864:1152:a19020887f]http://www.renault-turbo.com/jonboy/hatch/batttraydone.jpg[/img:a19020887f]