Noise when turning

Level 9 User Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 412

Hi
I just bought a r19 16v 3-dr hatch. it's lovely, it's dark metallic blue and i've been after one for ages after my r19 1.4l biarritz gave up last year!
It needs some work doing to it for the MOT (cracked suspension spring, also needs new gaiter on the CV joint apparently).
But there's another problem I noticed which is when i go round a tight corner even fairly slowly i hear a quite fast knocking. Any ideas what this is likely to be? I can hear it particularly coming from the passenger side when I turn left.

And I'll try and post some pics after I've done a bit of work on the body etc!

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

CV joint - new drive shaft time. Does it only do it when turning in one direction? You can test this by turning full lock and going round slowly in a circle.

Level 6 User Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 149

i would think the same... and since you say it needs a new gaiter, then its highly likely the grease has been thrown out of the CV joint and from there its just downhill....

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

exactly the burst CV gaiter has probably killed the joint, pop a new shaft one.

Level 9 User Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 412

Thanks, that would make sense I guess!

On another note, would the wheels from my 1.4L r19 fit straight onto my 16v? I'm assuming the PCD and centre diameter etc are the same so it should just be a straight swap?

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

yes straight swap. And if you are pinching bits off it you should be able to use one of its driveshafts too.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

if they are 13's they won't fit on the front over the brakes.

Level 7 User Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 243

tominbristol";p="99907 wrote:

Thanks, that would make sense I guess!

On another note, would the wheels from my 1.4L r19 fit straight onto my 16v? I'm assuming the PCD and centre diameter etc are the same so it should just be a straight swap?

Depends what size they are, anything less than 15 inch wont fit due to the larger breaks on the 16v

*edit* bah chris h beat me too it.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

14's fit on fine.

Level 9 User Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 412

That would be good news indeed if I could. Is prop shaft replacement relatively straightforward? It will be a first for me this one, but I'd prefer to do the work myself rather than letting a mechanic have all the fun! :D

Level 9 User Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 412

[quote="Peahole"]
Depends what size they are, anything less than 15 inch wont fit due to the larger breaks on the 16v[/quote]

Good thinking. They're 15" wheels so should be ok. I'm assuming the brakes on the 16v version are uprated from the 1.4 otherwise I could have had them too...

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

DRIVEshafts are pretty straightforward to change, just the usual fight against stiff/coroded nuts and bolts.

O/S, undo the hub nut, remove the strut-to-hub bolts, knock out the pin in the shaft located near the gearbox end, then you should be able to manoeuvre it out. perhaps the track rod end needs to come off...can't remember.

N/S, bit different on the gearbox end of the shaft, no pin this time but a gaitor which is holding the box oil in, so drain that first via the sump plug to avoid a big mess, then undo the three bolts to the gaitor, outer end same as other side, then out it comes...

Retroholic Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 3315

also i got this knocking it came from what i thought was the N/S checked it all out changed shaft just in case, wheel bearing fine an all, but its my track rod end on the O/S thats nacked, donno how it really relates to the N/S but i guess if sumats out of line it all is...

Level 9 User Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 412

Thanks JB. Maybe I'll have a go taking the one off my old car before tampering with the new one...
Haynes manual seems to make things as complicated as ever but it says to renew the hub nut whenever you change take it off - is this important? I guess it's under a lot of torque so might have suffered?

Cheers guys

Retroholic Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 3315

na dont bother...

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

Tom - just to make sure you realise, the 1.4's driveshafts won't fit the 16V...

Retroholic Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 3315

JB";p="99913 wrote:

yes straight swap. And if you are pinching bits off it you should be able to use one of its driveshafts too.

not even one neal?

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

1.4 shaft will be fiine until the 1st corner when it will pop out and if your really lucky destroy it meanign new box.

Retroholic Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 3315

the best answers as always CH straight to the point

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

meh...my bad.

Level 9 User Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 412

OK fair point! Guess a new driveshaft's in order then