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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:07 pm |
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Right, Clio hasn't been driven since the clutch cable snapped for a 2nd time about 2 months ago, it was limped home on a temporary AA man repair job and has stood on my drive ever since.
It was running low on fuel, and as it was a non-runner I didn't see the logic in spending money to fill it up, however I did on the odd occassion start her up just to keep her 'loose' for want of a better term.
Anyway, went out to it one night in the week and it wouldn't start off the key. It cranked over okay, but battery fatigue soon kicked in and it would barely turn over at all.
After spending about a minute theorising why it wouldn't start, I guessed that it was the fact there was no fuel in the tank. So I stuck the battery on charge overnight last night and emptied a jerry can of petrol into it (about £7's worth) and just tried starting it..... nothing.
It still turns over fine, but it doesn't strike up, it doesn't even sound like it's trying to start!
My current theory is that there's no fuel getting to the engine, but given how most of my theories never transpire as reality I'll leave the theorising to you experts.
I've checked the HT leads and ignition to make sure it's all in good order and they are. Distributor cap and arm were changed only a few hundred miles ago.
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Dan
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:10 pm |
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pull off the fuel line nearest the wing, this is the input. If theres no fuel, then it either blocked or not pumping(as in my case) but the rev counter is reading whilst its spinning over yes? |
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Chris H
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:11 pm |
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is the immobiliser going off? I can't remember if when its on the engine will crank.
is the rev counter moving?
Can you hear the fuel pump? |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:14 pm |
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Yes the immobiliser goes off.
Don't know about the rev counter.
If the fuel pump is meant to click on the penultimate key position then no, it isn't. |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:16 pm |
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Right just tried to start it again, rev counter doesn't move when it's cranking. |
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Dan
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:17 pm |
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could be either crank sensor or the immobiliser |
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Dan
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:18 pm |
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just read, deffo sounds like the crank sensor is up the creak |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:19 pm |
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Wont be the immobiliser because it deactivates. |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:21 pm |
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How could the CAS have failed then? The car hasn't moved.... (not that it matters I guess)
How cheap are replacement sensor and is it an easy thing to replace? |
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Dan
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:24 pm |
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pish easy to replace 2 13or10mm bolts(cant remember) and a plug and they're about £12
and sometimes, they just pack up lol |
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Chris H
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:35 pm |
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try plugging and unplugging it.
the connector plug is ontop of the gearbox and grey in colour. |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:41 pm |
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Right, I'm about to go and have a look at the CAS. One thought I've had though is about the keyhole in the glovebox... is this for the immob?
Only reason I ask is I was buggering about with the key in it for some reason (think it's because I couldn't find my working immob fob) and thought I could manually deactivate it.
If the key slot isn't in the right position could that be responsible? |
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Chris H
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:43 pm |
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yes that will do what you describe! |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:44 pm |
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Right forget that last question, the immob can only be on or off and it's on and it deactivates, silly question.
Can't really see 'the now' so it will have to wait unless I can find a torch..... |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:46 pm |
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Oh right? Well I've just looked at the slot and it runs left to right? |
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Chris H
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:47 pm |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:51 pm |
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FIXED! YAY!
It was the key slot not in the right position in the glovebox! Didn't think it had anything to do with the prob since the immobiliser was left on.
Changed position and heard the fuel pump priming and it struck up straight away!
Cheers for the advice chaps!
Can't beat a free fix! |
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Chris H
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:52 pm |
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the immob in the glovebox is the gay renault one, nothing to do with the other one. |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:55 pm |
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Oh right, I thought the other one was the Renault standard fit thing. |
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Dan
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:02 pm |
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lol just shows if you play with something you dont know about, it can bite you in the arse! |
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Gentle Ben
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:09 pm |
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