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Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:37 am

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9861&item=4539965487&rd=1

that is lovly

imo.

900 squids tho :/
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:44 am

lol I think i will ask him a few questions

some people I mean really.
Wicked Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:45 am

. . yeah come buy my lovely motor that i spent £5000 on but now ragging to fuck around the forests cos i know i'm selling it . . . .

Image

hehe

gold rims do look good on that but only cos of the cars colour.

I like the engine conversion too, £900 price tag could be a bit high for some ppl on here but you would prolly spend that getting an engine to that spec and with all the extra goodies on too.
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:47 am

hehe

thats what i was thinking..

it has prolly spent most of its life, sitting on the limiter.

still i like its looks!

Mental note..

if ever getting a ph1 19v 16v..gold multi spoke alloys are a must.

with that blue



also what you going to ask him?

(im off out now, i shall reply later :))


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Chris H
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:48 am

muwhahahahahahaha false sense of a possible sale then I'm gonna make him/her sweat heres what I asked

Can you please tell me more about the engine? What series was it raced in? 200bhp, do you have any evidence to back this up? I have a 16V myself but its to slow and the bodyworks tatty I would like a faster one, 2 litres and 200bhp sounds like it would do the job! Are there any other modifications to the car?
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:50 am

if thats got 200 bhp I'll eat my own foot

although he has a white un spare, clackmannan is near to me I think unless theres another in the uk.

Like blackburn, stu lives there the scottish one not the english one!
Wicked Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:57 am

hmmmm it surely is possible to get 200bhp out of a 2 litre lump with all the other mods he claims has been done to the car thou?

my original Ph1 16v had a str8 thru exhaust, chipped, IK and had that rolling roaded @ 161bhp on the 1.8 engine
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:59 am

ok I'll eat my leg if thats putting out anywhere near 200bhp

and you never had 161bhp either mate
Wicked Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:21 am

i wish i still had all the paperwork for that car, it went to the new owner when i sold it

The ph2 i have at the mo when the superchip on that was 100% was tested at 144bhp (i still have paperwork for that)

Max Power 144 bhp @ 6985 Rpm
Max Torque 126lbft @ 4445 Rpm

that was with no other mods.

It now has a stainless steel back back (Magnex) and that IK (not expecting any increase thou with that)
back on the standard ECU at the mo but new chip about to be tested in it and a decat on the way.
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:27 am

what was the power at the wheels?

For 144bhp on a 19 the wheel output should be between 120 - 130bhp

I laugh heartily when muppets say they have 150bhp then show me they have 95 bhp at the wheels.

A good standard one can put out nearly 130bhp at the wheels. Alexs ph2 hatch was pumping out 126bhp at the wheels at a rsc/cs rolling road day, he was oen of the highest, that was a totally stock car.
Wicked Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:40 am

now thats a good question, the graph does not show power at the wheels.

loads of other info like compression value per cylinder, oil temp, battery voltage, gas blast, ignition point, exhaust gas etc etc but lol nothing for power at the wheels.

i wonder if they will still have it on record . . . doubtful (reaches for the phone)
Wicked Neo
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:44 am

hmmmm phone call revealed they dont have it on record, and apparently they dont give a power at the wheels reading because it is inconsistent.
Power at the flywheel is the accurate figure.
I asked him to give an educated guess at 144bhp @ the flywheel to power at the wheels and he said it would prolly be about 20hp less than the flywheeel figure so we at roughly 124 bhp @ the wheels
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:48 am

power at the fly is indeed the accurate one, only way to measure it is to remove the engine and put it on an engine dyno.

Thats the only way it can be measured.
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:19 am

whats most powerful car you been in then?

talking bhp figures..

went in a ford anglia hot rod once,

with 350 chevy v8, chucking out 390bhp

thing was lovly,

worked on it too..just sat there bliping the trottle all day :P
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:26 am

well the old RS500 after I rebuilt the engine and so on we took it to the rollers and it said 530bhp, but after sorting it out to tame it a more reasonable 450bhp which was about 390 at the wheels was there.

The 460 ford racing lump I stuck in a stang would have been its closest match.
Chris H
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:47 am

checked my bt account and he had replied


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Dear chris_h42,

You asked:
"Can you please tell me more about the engine? What series was it raced in? 200bhp, do you have any evidence to back this up? I have a 16V myself but its to slow and the bodyworks tatty I would like a faster one, 2 litres and 200bhp sounds like it would do the job! Are there any other modifications to the car?"

HI THERE! THIS ENGINE HAS NOT BEEN RACED. THE ENGINE CONVERSION WAS DONE BY HILL POWER, DOWN IN DERBYSHIRE. THIS 2 LITRE 16 VALVE ENGINE HAS A STAGE 2 HEAD, AND CAMS. THERE IS NEW JBL 6-9 ON PARCEL SHELF WITH ALPINE FRONT DOOR SPEAKERS WITH TWEETERS THERE IS ALSO PIONEER SPEAKERS IN DASH. I HAD NO PROOF THAT THE CAR DONE 200BHP+ SO I CONTACTED HILL POWER MYSELF AND THEY VERIFIED THAT FOR ME! FOR ANY QUERIES ON MODIFICATIONS TO THE CAR IT HAS BEEN STATED ON THE EBAY WEBSITE. THANKS ANGUS

lol wish I had seen it earlier and I could have taken the piss outta him more.
JB
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:36 am

loada bollocks...

why do ppl bullshit?? i find it such a sign of insecurity that they feel they have to lie about everything that comes out their mouth for some reason. there is just no need.
Chris H
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:39 am

what do you mean?

My 19 has 190bhp, I phoned a guy and he said so!
JB
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:40 am

"a high performance race engine"

well actually its not i just thought i would say that cos it looks good....wankstain!
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:28 am

it still donst matter..

its looks lovley and has the 2.0 beasty in it.

i rest my case.
Neal
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:27 am

Also, when someone types whole sentences/paragraphs/messages entirely in block capitals for no reason, i assume a marked lack of intelligence. Judgemental maybe, but i do.

Anyhow, looks like youve got your wish Chris, it's been relisted

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9861&item=4542498327&rd=1


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