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Chris H
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:12 am

richty, enough of this buy an engine hoist crap, i am gonna make one.

Guy I know is gonna give me scaffold shackles etc so I will construct an A frame and slap a pulley on it.

So where would one get a reasonably priced pulley thats capable of taking a good 250kg's at least.

Again laziness means me no looky.
JB
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:55 pm

pulley makers!
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:59 am

indeed Jonny, indeed.

Anyway tried screwfix, machine mart etc, cheapest is gonna be 70 quid for one. Not happy.

So i reckon i shall have to make an energy engine engine extraction unit, thaty will allow me to whip out an engine double time, and possibly launch it a good 30 feet in the air.
JB
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:29 am

what about this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=303&item=4304981501&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

rigged up on a scaffold frame...would easy do the job...in fact im tempted myself!
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:01 am

thats no use for a engine hoist Jonny, pulley is far better.
JB
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:41 am

why not? its says it can lift 2 ton and it has 10ft of cable?? or am i missing something....what sort of pulley are u thinkin of? only other pulley i can think if is a simple wheel-type pulley...
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:54 am

yes thats a horizontal pulley, thats for pulling your land rover out of a bog. It will move the thing at 2 inches a minute.

Thats no use for a vertical lift as it would take all day.

The way I used to make the scaffold efforts was either a tripod or 2 tripods with a joining beam and the pulley on that.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=67140&id=18977

that sort of thing. You need to attach the hook on the scaffold directly or put a chain over the pole then the hook through that.
JB
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:56 am

ok i see....weill keep my eyes open

where would u get bits of scoffold from......without knickin them off a building site?
JB
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:59 am

well they got them in RS but they much more expensive than screwfix....

http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/browse/Module.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0311231857.1086267574@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccdadcljejgimkcfngcfkmdgkldffm.0&cacheID=ukie&3263720422=3263720422&stockNo=673412

rip off

a normal engine hoist is like 300 odd quid in there!!!
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:01 am

My mate Simon runs his own business and he has piles and piles of scaffold behind the workshop.

Boy I am doing community service with was a scaffolder by trade and he has shackles etc hes gonna give me.

So thats the frame sorted, its just a winch/pulley/engine operated ejection device thats holding the show up.

I assume even in Wales theres children? Gie them a tenner and they will nick you as much scaffolding as you want.

or talk to some workies with scaffolding, they will give/sell you some, they put it under acceptable losses.
JB
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:03 am

not sure what this is but looks close

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1267&item=3819399034&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Mark
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:08 am

Ah got one of those (Chain Block) at home in the garage, dad used to use years ago (It's about 20 year old at least or something daft). Not sure if it would still work, it's rusty as hell.
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:17 am

Mark dig it out, since its rusting away I will pay for postage and you can give me it, the payment you have is the fact you were in my presence at Blackpool! lol

That electric one is ideal, easy top control, used the 20 ton ones when I was working in Albion, easy to use.

The other one is fine but expensive. Screwfix and machine mart are cheaper than there.
Mark
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:31 am

I'll have a look, it's pretty heavy though, I'm not exactly sure if lifting engines out was it's original purpose, but if it can lift old Zepher engines out, it should be alright for you. I'll get you some photo's tonight (If I get my PC back today that is) so you can see what it's like. (If I can get to it, garage is full of crap).

We shall have to review payment Laughing
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:33 am

well on e-bay that leccy one was 60quid for postage, so get it on the scales ands see how much it would be.
Mark
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:40 am

I don't have any big enough, I think it'd cost you a fortune for me to post it. But if you're ever going to be in the Manchester vicinity let me know.
Stephen
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:46 am

I'm just laughing at myself here...

This is what I used to lift the engine out of the Clio Smile

http://www.alexander-mills.co.uk/stock/farm_handlers/10763.jpg

Overkill I know, but very fine percise movement is possible. On the other hand if you get fed-up then just rip the bloody thing out!
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:52 am

Doubt I will be near you Mark, when you coming up to see us btw? Its summer weathers good and theres hills to be camped on!

I think Crossers used a forklift to fit his RSi engine in.

I have done it by hand etc in the past but getting fed up of that and its not very precise either. Plus I am getting on and not as strong as I used to be either.
Mark
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:00 am

Give it a bit more time to improve weather wise say about august time need to sort something out nearer the time, I have all the camping gear except... a fucking tent! So that's out of the question I think heh. I was going to bring Marv up (not asked him but not spoke to him in ages) but I doubt he'd be interested in going this time.
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:03 am

I have a tent, even kipping in the car isn't to bad, done it many a time.

Come up yourself even.

but aye Aug should be good.
Mark
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:07 am

I suppose, we can sort something out nearer the time though.
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