Starter motor?

Level 2 User Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 52

For as long as I can remember I've always had to tap my foot on the throttle to get my car to start and thought that lately it was turning over slower than normal before starting and put it down to a low battery especially this morning when I had to get my jump pack out Evil or Very Mad

. I left the car parked up at my dads for the day and this afternoon went to start it up and nothing, dash lights came on and there was a noise from the relay box but that was it even with the jump pack attached, luckily my brothers gave me a jump start for me to get home and I haven't tried starting it since. Another bit of luck for me is I have the donor car arriving tomorrow which should help unless it looks too good to scrap then I have a dilemma.
So I'm guessing its the starter motor but its so busy under the bonnet I can't see where it is, is it going to be a pig of a job? I have a haynes manual but obviously would prefer the opinion of someone that knows what they are talking about as opposed to having a go and its nothing like in the pics Rolling Eyes

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TIA
Bev.

Site Subscriber Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3547

Its not the easiest of jobs,(ask touring, its taken him nearly a month, and he still hasnt done it!) some can almost fall off, or be really awkward.

Its down beside the downpipe on the back of the engine. it should have a heatshield on it, you have to remove all the brackets etc before its coming off!

Level 10 User Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 620

bev as long as u got a angle grinder to hand your going to have a arse of a job on ye hands, first of all have a feel under the manifold and see if you can feel a flat metal strip going from the bottom of the manifold going down, if thats not there then lucky you the starter will just fall out after you undo the bolts which are holing it in, if that strip is there make sure your patient unlike me im not and as dn said it took me a mth to do this job and finially gt it done

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LOL @ touring_19_16v Laughing

Level 10 User Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 620

now why u laffing at me mofo Very Happy

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Over a Month for a starter motor..LOL.

You rounded off the bottom bolt on the metal bracket didn't you?

Level 10 User Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 620

nooooooooooooooooo the bolt on the manifold all the other bolts were cooshtee to come off

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 2929

yea, the one that holds the metal bracket to the block and the manifold. The starter wouldn't come out because it was in the way.

Level 10 User Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 620

aye thts correct mon ami nitemare it was

Level 2 User Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 52

So how long did it take to remove? would it be better for me to just buy a second hand one at a reasonable price than remove one from the donor car? (is Â£23 inc postage good?)

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23 sounds pretty good to me!

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 2929

aye good price. take it apart and give it a good clean and light oil before you fit it though.

Level 10 User Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 620

take it apart onlyif your sure you can put it back2gether

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take it apart onlyif your sure you can put it back2gether

It's not rocket science mate. Wink

(if you think your going to break it then dont.)

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

chances are if you sort the earthing the problems will be sorted

Level 10 User Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 620

theres a tech article about adding new nice earths tht chris has done god dam handy i tell ya

Level 2 User Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 52

don't think it was the earth as when I used my jump pack I connected the earth cable to the engine not the battery or is there a seperate earth for the starter in its own right? also will the starter from the TD fit the 16v?

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

yes the td starter will fit the 16V.

And the way you connected it says its an earth problem more than it doesn't!

Sort the earths out and it will stop flattening the battery as well.

Level 2 User Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 52

Sorry just reread my first post and I miss typed Embarassed

, I had to be bump started to get the car going lucky for me my younger brothers are both strapping young lads even if the youngest did winge like a girl about my car being heavy.

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is the battery being drained?

Level 2 User Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 52

not sure to be honest, it normally turns over slowly as if the battery is low but just been out and tried to start it and it doesn't even try Rolling Eyes

but the lights come on inc the stereo so the battery can't be that low.