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 tungy 19 16v rattle prob
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touring_19_16v
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:09 pm

hey there ive had this j plate 19 for 3days and all of a sudden its making a rattle noise near the bulk head on the drivers side, theres no loss of oerformance what so ever, now a few ppl reckon its the bottom ends going, but then some people reckon the cambelt tensioner pully is fucked and the belt is hitting the cover.

the rattle started all of a sudden when the car died on me last nite, wehn u lisen to it at idle theres no noise but when you rev it u hear a rattle james thought it was def coming from the bottom but i thought it was also coming from the cam cover

has anyone any ideas as im going chicster on friday hoping the car wont fuck up on me touch wood it hasnt yet
trancer
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:24 pm

try checking the heatshield on the downpipe, its a common problem Wink
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:39 pm

ill have a look at that one but y would it do it over 3000 revs tho thats whats confusing
trancer
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:41 pm

does it do it under load or just by reving the car when its static

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touring_19_16v
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:43 pm

both, when stationary and u rev it its rattles about, and wen ur driving and hot 3k its starts to rattle aswell however the rattle only gets a slight bit luder when u hit 4.5 - 5k
trancer
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:46 pm

sounds like it might be the big ends but im not %100 sure, ask chris h im sure he will point you in the right direction Wink
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:53 pm

riteo i was hoping it wasnt that but will have get chris h 2 gimme sum ideas
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:21 pm

btw i checked the plugs and they are burnt to bits could that be a problem causing it?
bin looking on the old renault sports club and alot of ppl have had the same sort of prob from the same area and its to with the tensioners as they are plastic they tend to sieze over time so im wondering wether to change the camebeli n pullys or would i be wasting time and money
Neal
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:33 pm

the tensioners arent plastic, its not a poxy ford!

it does seem likely that the bearing in one of the tensioners is duff. All you can do to really be sure its that is de tension the cambelt and have a feel of the tensioner and idler pulley. See if they feel stiff/rough.
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:37 pm

how hard would it be t fit a cambelt kit n time it? if this helps then it may give a few more ideas, imagine a clutch bearing rattling n times that by 5 thts roughly how it sounds

neal sorry i mite of read it wrong lol
huwwatkins
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:38 pm

Easy way to tell if they are seized is to take the came belt cover off, start the engine and have a look...you'll soon see if somthings amiss.

I can tell you though from experience the heatshield next to the downpipe does rattle at various rpms'
Neal
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:39 pm

if youve got a cambelt kit, you can do it in an hour, easily.

Its an expensive thing to buy if that's not actually your problem though, so you want to check the tensioner and idler first before forking out.
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:40 pm

rite so jobs for tommorow take the cam cover of and hope its the tensioner, and check the dwnpipe all cool if things go well
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:42 pm

neal....ok but the car has done over a 175k now so i think i should change it how would u kno if the bottom ends are going
Chris H
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:06 am

right the rattle will be th eheatshield as they rattle all the time. the time honoured big jubilee clip round it is an acceptable fix.

Change the belt and tensioners as they may not have been done yet. The tensioners should really be changed every belt change but I normally do them every 2nd belt change.
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:44 pm

right ive had lee look at the car and ive come 2 a rash decsision i have to sell i cant be doing with it breaking down on me so view my thred on the for sale part really upset i have ad to make this descision
Neal
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:47 pm

you didnt think you could just get a 13 year old renault 19 16v off ebay for peanuts and start driving it as an everyday workhorse car with no work on it at all did you?
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 2:06 pm

not but i trusted the seller tht the engine was strong i dont mind anything else even if it was clutch probs but engine swops sod that i aint got the time 2 do it and id rather sell it rather thn it sit outside my house
JB
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:55 am

if the tensioner is knackered or a heatshield is loose, that isnt a bad thing...those are common little wear and tear items, u cant expect any more...
Wicked Neo
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:53 am

touring_19_16v wrote:
not but i trusted the seller tht the engine was strong i dont mind anything else even if it was clutch probs but engine swops sod that i aint got the time 2 do it and id rather sell it rather thn it sit outside my house


if you was having clutch problems, you still would have to have the engine and box out to replace it.

Take the advice given to you here and in your other thread.
check the items you have been told to check.
you could have this car sorted for about £100 (cambelt kit and CTS) and a little work.
trancer
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:02 am

i say keep the car, do the work and in the end be proud to own a retro renault Wink

they are getting less and less every day Crying or Very sad
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