USB plug in diag tool for R19/Clio/R21 (and Megane*) - Page 3 - Retro-Renault

tracklogic · 16th February 2010, 07:30 PM

I was thinking of putting a connector on the underside for a sub-board with something like a 2 or 4 line LCD on and a couple of push buttons that way it would be sold as an upgrade so to speak as every board will feature the connector and if along the way someone fancied an LCD theyd just need to get an LCD board and plug it into the existing unit.

**Chris H** · 16th February 2010, 07:33 PM

4 line would be my preference.

More info the better, its irritating switching all the time on the XRD.

tracklogic · 16th February 2010, 07:33 PM

Will be able to display as many parameters as I can fit on the screen, all the datas fetched at once from the Renault ECU.

**Chris H** · 16th February 2010, 07:37 PM

yeah I know but the 2 line xrd means you have to switch between screens to get the data, whereas if the data was all on one screen it would be a lot more helpful.

tracklogic · 16th February 2010, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris H

yeah I know but the 2 line xrd means you have to switch between screens to get the data, whereas if the data was all on one screen it would be a lot more helpful.

Ah ok with ya

have just finished adding the two connectors for the LCD addon board, have also changed from the DB9 connector to a 8 pin Amp mate'n'lock style connector due to concerns people would think it was a RS232 connector

and added a +5v power supply to the board to allow for powering it from the vehicle itself (for LCD standalone mode).

**Chris H** · 16th February 2010, 08:15 PM

you fitting a case to it or what?

tracklogic · 16th February 2010, 08:20 PM

Well the plan was to recommend a couple of suitable enclosures from like Maplin or Farnell I think because of the low selling price its going to have to definitely be something off the shelf.

**Chris H** · 16th February 2010, 08:27 PM

yeah best idea.

only thing is if theres no case then you'll get my things blown as I put it in with a load of coins and so on.

tracklogic · 16th February 2010, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris H

yeah best idea.

only thing is if theres no case then you'll get my things blown as I put it in with a load of coins and so on.

I've found a suitable enclosure and resized the board to fit, so will be supplying the complete unit built up, housed and tested. Had enough now, am off to bed!

**Chris H** · 16th February 2010, 09:48 PM

revised price then?

tracklogic · 17th February 2010, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris H

revised price then?

Hi Chris

Will have to work it out from BOM etc.. but shouldnt be too far off the original target price.

Matt

**Chris H** · 17th February 2010, 11:29 AM

tbh the price as long as its under 3 figures is a bargain.

Most people will recoup the money back in fuel savings and chasing phantom problems about.

**Chris H** · 17th February 2010, 05:21 PM

here4s some poor to be fair pics of the xrd setup

I never pulled the wires out of the socket as its an arse to put them back in.

cars a mess, never cleaned it since I got it

tracklogic · 17th February 2010, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris H

here4s some poor to be fair pics of the xrd setup

I never pulled the wires out of the socket as its an arse to put them back in.

cars a mess, never cleaned it since I got it

Thanks Chris

I'm not very impressed with that method, I'll have to have a think and come up with something a bit better... maybe try and source the 12 pin connector thats actually meant to sit in the socket? Could probably pick a +12V and GND feed from the socket too rather than the fuse box (unit has a fuse on the PCB and a reverse polarity diode so no need for external one).

Matt

**Chris H** · 17th February 2010, 11:16 PM

my plan for my xrd is to get the cover off of a spare dash loom and drill it to mount the pins I have.

they sell the adaptor plugs for diagnostic gear on ebay but they are not cheap and most are wrong having all the pins where there is a blank on the socket.

tracklogic · 18th February 2010, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris H

my plan for my xrd is to get the cover off of a spare dash loom and drill it to mount the pins I have.

they sell the adaptor plugs for diagnostic gear on ebay but they are not cheap and most are wrong having all the pins where there is a blank on the socket.

If you did have a plug into the diagnostic socket would you be able to close the fusebox lid for driving? If not, guess I'll have to go with three pins on suitably coloured cable (i.e red for +12v, black GND, green for diag info).

Matt

**Chris H** · 18th February 2010, 08:03 AM

yeah theres enough room to close it up and have the cable come out the side. i have it open as I swap it between cars

**Jay** · 18th February 2010, 12:08 PM

i wanted one of them xrd,s, bit expensive i would ave thought?

**Chris H** · 18th February 2010, 12:24 PM

yes very expensive. Still i got it 2nd hand off of Chet so it was him that took the biggest hit in the wallet.

I meant to ask Matt does it give out data on open loop and closed loop? what about charcoal canister purge activation?

**Jay** · 18th February 2010, 12:30 PM

ah i see was gonna have the ecu of chet with the fastchip in it but he misplaced it lol

16th February 2010, 07:33 PM	#42 (permalink)
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16th February 2010, 07:37 PM	#44 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	yeah I know but the 2 line xrd means you have to switch between screens to get the data, whereas if the data was all on one screen it would be a lot more helpful. __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

16th February 2010, 08:15 PM	#46 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	you fitting a case to it or what? __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

16th February 2010, 08:27 PM	#48 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	yeah best idea. only thing is if theres no case then you'll get my things blown as I put it in with a load of coins and so on. __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

16th February 2010, 09:48 PM	#50 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	revised price then? __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

16th February 2010, 07:30 PM	#41 (permalink)
tracklogic Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: County Durham Posts: 396 Threadstarter Found us:	I was thinking of putting a connector on the underside for a sub-board with something like a 2 or 4 line LCD on and a couple of push buttons that way it would be sold as an upgrade so to speak as every board will feature the connector and if along the way someone fancied an LCD theyd just need to get an LCD board and plug it into the existing unit.

16th February 2010, 07:33 PM	#43 (permalink)
tracklogic Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: County Durham Posts: 396 Threadstarter Found us:	Will be able to display as many parameters as I can fit on the screen, all the datas fetched at once from the Renault ECU.

16th February 2010, 08:20 PM	#47 (permalink)
tracklogic Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: County Durham Posts: 396 Threadstarter Found us:	Well the plan was to recommend a couple of suitable enclosures from like Maplin or Farnell I think because of the low selling price its going to have to definitely be something off the shelf.

17th February 2010, 11:29 AM	#52 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	tbh the price as long as its under 3 figures is a bargain. Most people will recoup the money back in fuel savings and chasing phantom problems about. __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

17th February 2010, 05:21 PM	#53 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	here4s some poor to be fair pics of the xrd setup I never pulled the wires out of the socket as its an arse to put them back in. cars a mess, never cleaned it since I got it __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

17th February 2010, 11:16 PM	#55 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	my plan for my xrd is to get the cover off of a spare dash loom and drill it to mount the pins I have. they sell the adaptor plugs for diagnostic gear on ebay but they are not cheap and most are wrong having all the pins where there is a blank on the socket. __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

18th February 2010, 08:03 AM	#57 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	yeah theres enough room to close it up and have the cable come out the side. i have it open as I swap it between cars __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

18th February 2010, 12:08 PM	#58 (permalink)
Jay modifier Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Northampton Posts: 1,517 Jay's Garage Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7 Found us:	i wanted one of them xrd,s, bit expensive i would ave thought?

18th February 2010, 12:24 PM	#59 (permalink)
Chris H master of boobies Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, Europe, Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun Posts: 13,190 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Found us:	yes very expensive. Still i got it 2nd hand off of Chet so it was him that took the biggest hit in the wallet. I meant to ask Matt does it give out data on open loop and closed loop? what about charcoal canister purge activation? __________________ 1984 Honda CBX 750 F - *Project Snaily* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Tungsten Grey - *Work in progress* 1991 Phase 1 Hatch 16V Red - *Red Dragon* 1991 Phase 1 Chamade 16V White - *Project 2k9* 1992 Phase 1 Chamade 16V 449 Blue - *The Chammy* 1999 Phase 2 Safrane 2l 16V Executive - *Luxo Barge* 2001 Laguna Dynamique - *Red thunder* 2006 (ish) Pushbike with front and rear suspension and disc brakes VARIOUS PARTS FOR SALE - *PM ME WITH WHAT YOU NEED* READ THESE: Tech Articles - How-To: Virtual Garage - How-To: Project Report

18th February 2010, 12:30 PM	#60 (permalink)
Jay modifier Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Northampton Posts: 1,517 Jay's Garage Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7 Found us:	ah i see was gonna have the ecu of chet with the fastchip in it but he misplaced it lol

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