19 16v versus clio 16v - Retro-Renault

number1 · 21st November 2006, 11:02 PM

ok got a few questions, i used to have a 1.8 rti 19 and i have had three clio valvers, Just wondered peoples opinions

1. What actually handles better? always felt that the 19 was more stable even though what i have was a lesser model to the 16v, whereas the clio always felt faster through the bends

2. Easiest to work on? i presume they might be both about the same being similar running gear although im told the 19's bay is tighter although i never once had to touch the 19's engine compartment apart from fluid levels.

3. What do people prefer? and why? what reason do you like that Car over another?

Just running ideas into my head of getting a r19 16v

Dave

Roger Red Hat · 21st November 2006, 11:06 PM

19 handles better,

clio is a lot harder to work on

but my choice is the clio...(many of the guys on here will say its cos im a girl) but i love the look of it! its a small hatch wich is what i wanted..and the extra gauges do it for me..plus the noise is by far nicer!

**Chris H** · 21st November 2006, 11:15 PM

1. 19 is more stable and imo is comfier and handles better.

2. depend son the job tbh! But the 19 is easier I would say.

3. 19, rusts less, more stable, better toys, not as cheap.

4. clios tend to cost more and have owners more willing to fork out money on them. The clio with an IK sounds great as it mounts on the TB but loses power on the clio but IK's gain on the 19.

**Wicked Neo** · 21st November 2006, 11:15 PM

The 19 does handle better and is easier to work on, yep its quite tight in the bay but the same engine in a clio bay is even tighter!

I'd say on pull away the clio is slightly quicker but the 19 always beats it at top end (not quite sure why to be honest but it does, chris h can explain better)

and yes roger has a clio cos he is a girl

eafertynyne · 21st November 2006, 11:45 PM

I've owned most of the 'old school' hot hatches including 19 16v, Clio 16v and Clio Williams 1 and I rate the 19 even higher than the Williams! This is why I bought another 19 16v for my trackdays. Finding a decent 19 for sale is getting increasingly difficult though.

JB · 22nd November 2006, 01:19 PM

yup, Roger's a girl.

**The T.I.B.** · 22nd November 2006, 01:24 PM

19 hatch looks great!

clio is fairly common

**bbracer16valver** · 22nd November 2006, 01:45 PM

i dont no i have never drove a clio

**bidderman1969** · 22nd November 2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eafertynyne

I've owned most of the 'old school' hot hatches including 19 16v, Clio 16v and Clio Williams 1 and I rate the 19 even higher than the Williams! This is why I bought another 19 16v for my trackdays. Finding a decent 19 for sale is getting increasingly difficult though.

i may have a good red one, say early next year, and it will be good

tom 16v · 22nd November 2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The T.I.B.

19 hatch looks great!

clio is fairly common

dont forget the chamase mofo lol

**Wicked Neo** · 22nd November 2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tom 16v

dont forget the chamase mofo lol

chamase, what's one of those then lol

**bidderman1969** · 22nd November 2006, 08:42 PM

girly? lol

**bidderman1969** · 22nd November 2006, 08:42 PM

payback time for ph1 headlights, lol

Roger Red Hat · 23rd November 2006, 05:33 PM

clios are common..but i must admit valvers/williams arnt seen that much..well around here anyway.
i like the agressive look of them..

think i might go for a performance panel filter over and ik, no powerloss. but even so, its just that noise i love..

i remeber when me and neal had a race that time at the lights..that noise was awesome!

and as for neo and jb..there just jelous. :P

tom 16v · 23rd November 2006, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Red Hat

clios are common..but i must admit valvers/williams arnt seen that much..well around here anyway.
i like the agressive look of them..

think i might go for a performance panel filter over and ik, no powerloss. but even so, its just that noise i love..

i remeber when me and neal had a race that time at the lights..that noise was awesome!

and as for neo and jb..there just jelous. :P

aggressive lolololololol thats thge most ammusing thing i have ever heard lolololol

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Roger Red Hat Membre abonné Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Slough... :( Posts: 618	19 handles better, clio is a lot harder to work on but my choice is the clio...(many of the guys on here will say its cos im a girl) but i love the look of it! its a small hatch wich is what i wanted..and the extra gauges do it for me..plus the noise is by far nicer! __________________ If she looks as good as a V8 sounds, give her my number!

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JB Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Swansea, Sunny South Wales Posts: 456	yup, Roger's a girl. __________________ JB

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Roger Red Hat Membre abonné Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Slough... :( Posts: 618	clios are common..but i must admit valvers/williams arnt seen that much..well around here anyway. i like the agressive look of them.. think i might go for a performance panel filter over and ik, no powerloss. but even so, its just that noise i love.. i remeber when me and neal had a race that time at the lights..that noise was awesome! and as for neo and jb..there just jelous. :P __________________ If she looks as good as a V8 sounds, give her my number!

21st November 2006, 11:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
eafertynyne Membre de bÃ©bÃ© Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 25	I've owned most of the 'old school' hot hatches including 19 16v, Clio 16v and Clio Williams 1 and I rate the 19 even higher than the Williams! This is why I bought another 19 16v for my trackdays. Finding a decent 19 for sale is getting increasingly difficult though.