Oil clocks + loom Plugs - Retro-Renault

amdaman · 20th January 2007, 04:28 PM

Hey, right, i'm wanting to put the oil clocks in the dash, but when I took my dash off the plug for the clocks were already there but it didn't fit in the ph1 clocks because the notches were in the wrong place although it did fit if you squeezed it in.

So I thought some newer clocks would do it but it looks the same?

So has anyone got any idea what I need to do?

Also what plug are the senders for the clocks connected to? The brown one in the engine bay or the white one?

thanks

amdaman · 21st January 2007, 04:45 PM

right just had a look, it seems that there are 4 wires that go to a brown plug which is probably the same one as in the engine bay. There are also 3 wires that go to other looms so I think they are power/earths.

The ones that go to the brown plug:

B3 - Purple
B5 - Orange
C2 Dark white
B4 - White
B7 - Grey

So If I connect those up in the engine bay hopefully they will work.

The other 3 wires are yellow, white and black, so will any power wires be ok for these? Just thinking maybe one goes to a loom for when the lights come on??

**Chris H** · 21st January 2007, 06:25 PM

wires from the bay,

oil pressure (normally the purple one)
oil level 2 wires
oil temp 2 wires and shares the sender with the level sender.

black should be earth, white the light trip wire and the yellw a switched feed.

amdaman · 21st January 2007, 06:37 PM

cheers dude, so If I just connect those up to the valver side of the loom i'll be ok?

What can I use for the light feed and the yellow.. anything? Can I earth it anywhere too?

edit, also how do I get the clocks to stay as i've only got half the cradle... bluetack anyone ha ha.

**Chris H** · 21st January 2007, 06:44 PM

well the wires ther ein the other plug should just go? check with a muitlimeter to the brown plug.

amdaman · 22nd January 2007, 11:22 AM

hmm just been out and had a look, i can see all the wires in the plug in the engine bay apart from the purple one?

Also been trying to get the lights to work but having no luck..

Connected the yellow to any yellow, black to a screw in the dash it must be the white one!

amdaman · 22nd January 2007, 11:59 AM

had it working intermittently off the clock loom, but i think my clock but my clock loom is shagged I think because my clock never seemed to work..

Also the bulbs are dead as only one worked, can't find the same type of bulb either, it's a small type one but has a long bulb, not the stubby type.. grr.

**Chris H** · 22nd January 2007, 12:38 PM

the bulbs pull out of the holders.

amdaman · 8th February 2007, 12:20 AM

Drag this up.

I've just connected all the wires just like they were in the valver (to the brown plug in the dash) Lights work, but only the oil level works! The oil temp and pressure don't. Ive checked in the bay and all wires are present, not sure what the problem could be?

**bidderman1969** · 8th February 2007, 08:47 AM

you've just confirmed why i hate electrics

**Chris H** · 8th February 2007, 10:33 AM

wirings probably wrong wee man.

The other gauges willonly work when its running and for the oil temp to get up it needs driven a bit, you won;t really get hot oil temps if its sat idlign fr 20 mins in your drive.

amdaman · 26th February 2007, 11:47 PM

Right Chris this is how it was in the Valver:

B3- Purple
B5 - Orange/red
C2 - Dark White
B4 - White
B7 - Grey

Those were where the wires went in that brown plug in the dash, so I put them in. I checked the engine bay to see if those wires were there in the brown plug there and they were... Dunno what the heck is wrong with it grrr!

The oil level is wierd too, it comes on, on ignition then goes off when the engine starts, the comes back on for like 10 seconds then goes off again..?

**Chris H** · 26th February 2007, 11:52 PM

the oil gauge should stop when the engien fires or more correctly once the oil light goes out and not come back on until its stopped.

if it was wired as it was int he 16v then it shoudl work int he rt shell.

amdaman · 26th February 2007, 11:58 PM

feck knows then!! must be a dodgy wire somewhere.

Sensors should be ok on a 99 megane lump surely, clocks are from a 95 valver.

Do you know if 91 and 95 valvers were wired differently for the clocks behind the dash?

**Chris H** · 27th February 2007, 07:56 AM

dash wires should be the same

amdaman · 2nd March 2007, 08:02 PM

Chris do you know/ could you check which wires for the oil clocks go to the brown plug in the bay and what numbers they are?

eg

Orange, C3 (oil level) etc..

**Chris H** · 3rd March 2007, 01:02 AM

nope cos I don't have a clio nearby and I don't have a good enough wiring diagram for one, sorry mate.

20th January 2007, 04:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	Oil clocks + loom Plugs Hey, right, i'm wanting to put the oil clocks in the dash, but when I took my dash off the plug for the clocks were already there but it didn't fit in the ph1 clocks because the notches were in the wrong place although it did fit if you squeezed it in. So I thought some newer clocks would do it but it looks the same? So has anyone got any idea what I need to do? Also what plug are the senders for the clocks connected to? The brown one in the engine bay or the white one? thanks

21st January 2007, 04:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	right just had a look, it seems that there are 4 wires that go to a brown plug which is probably the same one as in the engine bay. There are also 3 wires that go to other looms so I think they are power/earths. The ones that go to the brown plug: B3 - Purple B5 - Orange C2 Dark white B4 - White B7 - Grey So If I connect those up in the engine bay hopefully they will work. The other 3 wires are yellow, white and black, so will any power wires be ok for these? Just thinking maybe one goes to a loom for when the lights come on??

21st January 2007, 06:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	cheers dude, so If I just connect those up to the valver side of the loom i'll be ok? What can I use for the light feed and the yellow.. anything? Can I earth it anywhere too? edit, also how do I get the clocks to stay as i've only got half the cradle... bluetack anyone ha ha.

22nd January 2007, 11:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	hmm just been out and had a look, i can see all the wires in the plug in the engine bay apart from the purple one? Also been trying to get the lights to work but having no luck.. Connected the yellow to any yellow, black to a screw in the dash it must be the white one!

22nd January 2007, 11:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	had it working intermittently off the clock loom, but i think my clock but my clock loom is shagged I think because my clock never seemed to work.. Also the bulbs are dead as only one worked, can't find the same type of bulb either, it's a small type one but has a long bulb, not the stubby type.. grr.

8th February 2007, 12:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	Drag this up. I've just connected all the wires just like they were in the valver (to the brown plug in the dash) Lights work, but only the oil level works! The oil temp and pressure don't. Ive checked in the bay and all wires are present, not sure what the problem could be?

26th February 2007, 11:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	Right Chris this is how it was in the Valver: B3- Purple B5 - Orange/red C2 - Dark White B4 - White B7 - Grey Those were where the wires went in that brown plug in the dash, so I put them in. I checked the engine bay to see if those wires were there in the brown plug there and they were... Dunno what the heck is wrong with it grrr! The oil level is wierd too, it comes on, on ignition then goes off when the engine starts, the comes back on for like 10 seconds then goes off again..?

26th February 2007, 11:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	feck knows then!! must be a dodgy wire somewhere. Sensors should be ok on a 99 megane lump surely, clocks are from a 95 valver. Do you know if 91 and 95 valvers were wired differently for the clocks behind the dash?

2nd March 2007, 08:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
amdaman Membre Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 353	Chris do you know/ could you check which wires for the oil clocks go to the brown plug in the bay and what numbers they are? eg Orange, C3 (oil level) etc..

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