gearbox oil? - Retro-Renault

alansr1916v · 2nd February 2007, 03:57 PM

hi, is there a way of checking the gearbox oil level? mine seems to be leaking now ever since i got it back from having the clutch done? the place i took it to get clutch done cant look at it untill monday! also is ep80 or ep90 gearbox oil ok to use?

ORSE.16V · 2nd February 2007, 04:06 PM

Should be ep75/80w mate think the box holds about 3.4ltrs of it.

**The T.I.B.** · 2nd February 2007, 04:06 PM

gearbox oil level should be til it overflows out the filler point. (car on level ground).

the filler point is on the front face of the gearbox, it's like a plastic wing nut thing that unscrews. might need a length or tubing with a funnel on the end to get down there!

CH has done a good techy article on it: Manual Gearbox Oil Change

alansr1916v · 2nd February 2007, 04:15 PM

thanks for that, i just got 2 cheap bottles of ep/80 for now as its not worth paying anymore while its still leaking! thanks for that link, it was a big help as i was looking at the wrong place to put the oil in!! lmao!! whats the little black plastic box on the top of the gearbox? u can pull it out easy? i was guna put the oil in there?? thanks for the advice

**The T.I.B.** · 2nd February 2007, 05:28 PM

don't have that on mine, i believe it's just a breather for the box oil though. if it's what i'm thinking of i've just got a white plastic plug instead!

so fill the box up til it starts pouring out, screw the plug up well, go for a drive, come back to it later and top up if necessary.

Where's it leaking from?

alansr1916v · 2nd February 2007, 07:47 PM

i havnt got it confirmed but i think its going to be the bearing on the driveshaft? apparently they can pop in/out making oil leak out??? the guys looking at it monday apparently!! ive topped it all up now, it took 1ltr before it started overflowing!

**The T.I.B.** · 2nd February 2007, 08:46 PM

definitely needed some then!

at least you can take it back to the guy, that's good. the driveshaft on the passenger side goes right into the gearbox housing and so the end of the shaft is surrounded by the gearbox oil, for lubrication. what keeps it in is a rubber gaitor around the end of the shaft which should seal against the side face of the gearbox.

The gaitor is held against the box face by a metal ring with three screws through it, you can see it clearly. There are a few reasons why it wouldn't seal properly, maybe there's dirt trapped between the mating faces, maybe the screws are not tight enough, maybe the threads were stripped so they won't tighten (happened to me, steel screws into soft aluminium housing...

) or possibly that ring itself was put on backwards!

Good luck getting it sorted

alansr1916v · 2nd February 2007, 08:56 PM

ok matey, thanks for the help & advice, will keep u posted as to how it goes! hopefully ill get the jumping sorted at the same time! i think theres an air leak somewhere, wont let me go over 4 maybe 5k revs! an can hear a hi-pitch whistling noise coming from engine when the revs start building up? really wish i took it to another garage, last time i used them a few yrs ago on my ph1 i had nothing but trouble when i got it back! should of learnt my lesson really! lol

**Neal** · 2nd February 2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The T.I.B.

definitely needed some then!

at least you can take it back to the guy, that's good. the driveshaft on the passenger side goes right into the gearbox housing and so the end of the shaft is surrounded by the gearbox oil, for lubrication. what keeps it in is a rubber gaitor around the end of the shaft which should seal against the side face of the gearbox.

The gaitor is held against the box face by a metal ring with three screws through it, you can see it clearly. There are a few reasons why it wouldn't seal properly, maybe there's dirt trapped between the mating faces, maybe the screws are not tight enough, maybe the threads were stripped so they won't tighten (happened to me, steel screws into soft aluminium housing...

) or possibly that ring itself was put on backwards!

Good luck getting it sorted

unusual for that seal to leak, but at the small end of the gaitor, there is a bearing/seal so the shaft can spin round in it. That's what the guy is talking about.

**The T.I.B.** · 2nd February 2007, 09:14 PM

ah thanks, now i read it again i can see that!

(would it be worth trying to replace that or is it a new shaft job?)

alansr1916v · 4th February 2007, 02:03 PM

its gota be that bearing/seal! my parking spot is on a slope an when i park so that the passenger side is sloping down it leaks, but last nite i parked so that the drivers side was sloping down an just looked at it and it has hardly leaked! an i know theres oil left in it as i topped it up last night again! hopefully the garage can fit me in tomorrow!

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2nd February 2007, 04:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
ORSE.16V Membre Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: COLCHESTER ESSEX Posts: 53	Should be ep75/80w mate think the box holds about 3.4ltrs of it.

2nd February 2007, 04:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
alansr1916v Membre Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chatham,kent,uk Posts: 362	thanks for that, i just got 2 cheap bottles of ep/80 for now as its not worth paying anymore while its still leaking! thanks for that link, it was a big help as i was looking at the wrong place to put the oil in!! lmao!! whats the little black plastic box on the top of the gearbox? u can pull it out easy? i was guna put the oil in there?? thanks for the advice

2nd February 2007, 07:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
alansr1916v Membre Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chatham,kent,uk Posts: 362	i havnt got it confirmed but i think its going to be the bearing on the driveshaft? apparently they can pop in/out making oil leak out??? the guys looking at it monday apparently!! ive topped it all up now, it took 1ltr before it started overflowing!

2nd February 2007, 08:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
alansr1916v Membre Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chatham,kent,uk Posts: 362	ok matey, thanks for the help & advice, will keep u posted as to how it goes! hopefully ill get the jumping sorted at the same time! i think theres an air leak somewhere, wont let me go over 4 maybe 5k revs! an can hear a hi-pitch whistling noise coming from engine when the revs start building up? really wish i took it to another garage, last time i used them a few yrs ago on my ph1 i had nothing but trouble when i got it back! should of learnt my lesson really! lol

4th February 2007, 02:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
alansr1916v Membre Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chatham,kent,uk Posts: 362	its gota be that bearing/seal! my parking spot is on a slope an when i park so that the passenger side is sloping down it leaks, but last nite i parked so that the drivers side was sloping down an just looked at it and it has hardly leaked! an i know theres oil left in it as i topped it up last night again! hopefully the garage can fit me in tomorrow!