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Old 27th October 2006, 03:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Now, how much work will it take to get the 172 lump running on 19 management. Stan suggested it to me so blaim him

I know i'll loose the VVT but never mind! and i have to get it to somehow support a dizzy. I havent had a look at the 172's fly yet, so dont know if thats compatable with the 19's management or if the 19's fly will fit the 172's crank...
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Old 27th October 2006, 03:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Surely it would be easier and cheaper to use the 172 management, rather than bastardising bits of loom and having the head machined up etc, etc?
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Old 27th October 2006, 03:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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the 172's management means i have to have the WHOLE loom because of the immobiliser system in the ecu. and then i have to butcher the wiwing loom and take out all the stuff i dont need!
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Old 27th October 2006, 03:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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also the head on thew 172 has 2 holes at the end of the head where you stick the cam alignment tool in, so i could run a dizzy off thatr and make an adapter plate...
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Old 27th October 2006, 03:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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use the 172 stuff. Big wow its a few wires.

No point in ruinign tyhe thing to use the dizzy etc, might as well get the engien otu of the laguna then.
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Old 27th October 2006, 03:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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the other option is standalone managment...
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Old 27th October 2006, 04:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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if you ditch the VVT you can choose one of the 2 cam phase options

1 - good power, but wont idle and wont pass emissions

2 - pass emissions and idle fine, but bugger all power.

Which one would you choose?
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Old 27th October 2006, 04:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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thats not strictly true neal, the cams are not that wild, they switch at 1500rpm anyway. Its just tpo get the emmisions down enough.

Won't be any lumpier really than a 16V lump.
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Old 27th October 2006, 05:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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and also, when its in the 19 it'll have to meet pre 1992 regulations. which it'll fly through.
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Old 27th October 2006, 06:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Use the lump with an aftermarket management as suggested above by yourself... best option by far.
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Old 27th October 2006, 06:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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only problem then is getting it mapped etc!
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Old 27th October 2006, 07:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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actually Dan it has to comply with the emmision standard it did when in the 172.
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Old 27th October 2006, 07:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i dont think it does
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Old 27th October 2006, 07:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yes it does, it goes by year of the engine not of the car.
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Old 27th October 2006, 07:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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no its whatever older

**ben my mate sat next to me is a moter**

he will see if he is right tomoz at work
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Old 27th October 2006, 08:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Standalone ECU all the way if u ask me....running on 19 gear was a suggestion.

I can get the mapping near as damn it on the road for u. Then a couple of hours tweaking on the dyno will see u right.

You have envey bodies already dont you? so £450 on an ecu and your sorted.

DO IT!
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Old 30th October 2006, 07:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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just buy a clio 172 and drive it, lol
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Old 30th October 2006, 07:19 PM   #18 (permalink)
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he already tried that, didnt turn out too well
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