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F7R 710 engine
F7R 710 engine
Published by Neal
23rd October 2006
Introduction

Mon Nov 28, 2005

Well, I bought this on ebay a few months back and it’s been sitting in my ‘workshop’ ever since, waiting for me to decide what to do with it. It is a 2.0 16v engine, the same as Stan’s, from a phase 1 megane coupe. Basically it’s the same as the Williams Clio engine, but with a few small improvements. Nobody wants to read all that crap yet again though so I won’t regurgitate it here. The guy I bought it off had been using it in his clio for amateur rallying, running on carbs so it’s probably had a hard life. He also gave me a bunch of other parts such as ECUs, an oil cooler and rad, hoses, manifolds etc.



It came without most of the ancillaries and bracketry etc. and what it did come with was mostly megane stuff. I have a spare 1.8 F7P engine from a 19 that I stripped though so I can just pinch whatever bits I need from that.

Originally I was going to slap it straight in my blue phase 2, but now that I have the black phase 1 to restore, it’s obvious that I have to rebuild it and put it in that when it’s ready.

Black phase 1 project: http://www.retro-renault.com/forums/...?p=405#post405

The plan is to strip it totally, renew all the bearings, rings, seals, gaskets, pumps and so on, paint the block up nice, and clean all other components so that it will basically be a nice fresh new engine. I will also do a spot of headwork on it, basically just cleaning up the ports and rounding off corners etc. to release a few more ponies. I’m not going to start buying expensive performance parts and so on, just do the things that I can do ‘for free’. I did see a DCOE manifold that could be used for throttle bodies on ebay a while back that went for £50 or so and I didn’t bid and have been kicking myself ever since.

So at the weekend I began the strip down.

Plugs out… Triple electrode jobs – yuk! I’ll get some nice NGK or Bosch singles for it when it goes back together.



Cam cover (plastic!) off, looks nice and clean in there which is a good sign!




Head bolts out and head lifted onto the bench.




It was at this point that I took a chunk out of my thumb. With the engine free standing on the floor, cracking off the headbolts proved ‘troublesome’. With 3ft breaker bar in hand, I braced the engine against the leg of the bench with my foot. One of the bolts was quite stubborn and when it finally cracked free, I was slightly off balance and scraped my thumb along the sharp edge of the cam housing :shock:

No pics of the thumb sadly, I was busy trying to stop it bleeding. Still, like the macho man that I am, so as not to be beaten I lifted the head off anyway and proceeded to remove the cam housings and cams.



A shot of the bottom end with the head off. I could make out some small ‘dinks’ in the piston crowns where some of the valves are meant to clear, so this engine has probably suffered a cambelt failure at some point in its past. Any valves that were damaged have obviously been replaced though so no bother to me.

Cams out. These are actually slightly milder than the cams in the standard 1.8 engine, so I think I will use the cams from my spare 1.8 when I put this back together. Again, a few more BHP for free. Every little helps!

You can spot a few drops of my blood in these pics... That's dedication!


All looks good so far. Next time, once I get my own valve spring compressor, valve removal!

I also need to buy an engine stand to get the bottom end off the floor and start to strip that down. It still has a sump full of oil so that’s going to be fun.

Total spent so far: £205

Car Details
Year, Make & Model:
Megane 2.0 16V
Date vehicle acquired:
23rd September 2006
Price:
200

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By Wicked Neo on 24th August 2007, 11:09 PM
that engine is looking mighty sweet! Got to love that supersprint manifold and down pipe!!

cant wait to hear it running
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By bbracer16valver on 24th August 2007, 11:22 PM
stunning
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By bidderman1969 on 24th August 2007, 11:24 PM
Neal, hope you dont mind me saying, but as great as this engine rebuild thing is, i thought you wanted the black 19 to be restored to standard?

or have i misunderstood? ??
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By Doc on 24th August 2007, 11:31 PM
I want your manifold! lol
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By bbracer16valver on 24th August 2007, 11:33 PM
its standard+
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By Doc on 24th August 2007, 11:37 PM
it's shiney!
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By Neal on 24th August 2007, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bidderman1969 View Post
Neal, hope you dont mind me saying, but as great as this engine rebuild thing is, i thought you wanted the black 19 to be restored to standard?

or have i misunderstood? ??
You're sort of right, in that I want it standard externally. A few small performance mods don't hurt though!
Last edited by Neal; 24th August 2007 at 11:59 PM.
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By Dr_S on 6th September 2007, 12:46 PM
How could you get so cheap manifold? You have to be lucky

Is there any chance that you measure length of pipes?
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By Neal on 6th September 2007, 01:49 PM
You know, if you had asked me that week ago, the answer would have been sure, no problem. But now it's in the car and the answer is no, not a chance.
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By bbracer16valver on 6th September 2007, 03:28 PM
is there a total cost for this engine build yet?
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By Neal on 6th September 2007, 03:34 PM
Oh FFS, give me a chance, got a lot on atm!
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By stan on 7th September 2007, 11:54 AM
probably £18.76 knowing how tight he is, and the ammount of freebies being slung his way!!
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By Neal on 7th September 2007, 12:00 PM
Bah feck off! I sling out more freebies than I get slung so my conscience is clear.
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By MicKPM on 7th September 2007, 12:45 PM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee - It's so nearly the weekend and I can't WAIT to see this mofo in the metal!!
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By elviscat on 18th October 2007, 04:14 PM
Neil a beautiful job m8, how does it run?
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By Doc on 18th October 2007, 04:22 PM
Lumpy. PMSL!
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By Neal on 18th October 2007, 04:43 PM
Not any more. Stuck a fettled 1.8 head/inlet etc. on it last weekend. Sound as a pound now
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By Doc on 18th October 2007, 04:50 PM
good lad. slower? or is it hard to tell as the megane head never ran rite?
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By Neal on 18th October 2007, 05:14 PM
yeah, can't really judge it. I think theres more power if anything, like you say, due to it running right now. Noticeably more than the 1.8 though

So much nicer to drive now though, difference is night and day.
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